Thanks For The Memories,Artur

Morning,all.

It certainly seems like a long time ago-and 2005 was certainly that-but there was a time when Celtic had two problem positions,largely unresolved since the days of The Lions.

The best managers of our club in my lifetime are Martin O’Neill and Jock Stein. Each of them had a blind spot when it came to goalkeepers,and neither could find a decent left back,apart from the peerless Tommy Gemmell-who was not a natural left back,by the way,and right footed into the bargain.

Just ask Helmut Haller!

I have nightmares about the goalkeepers we had to endure after Ronnie Simpson left and before Artur Boruc arrived. Many of those goalkeepers had nightmares on a regular basis,like clockwork on a Saturday afternoon and Wednesday night. Then Artur arrived,and bingo. 

Once we signed him,we seemed to have a regular flow of top notch keepers,and it is hard to argue that Fraser Forster wasn’t the best of them. Just ask the Rangers players who peppered him for ninety minutes with everything they had one fine December afternoon at Hampden.

Or the Barcelona players who must have been sick of the sight of him!

Yet,maybe the best performance of any Celtic goalkeeper that I’ve witnessed was actually just prior to Artur’s arrival? And,yes,it was against Barcelona too. Nou Camp in 2004/05,as David Marshall held back the constant flow of shots from the home side,ably assisted of course by John Kennedy.

A pair of teenagers,against one of the best sides in the world? Unbelievable world-class performances that night from them both. Oh,I had such hopes for them.

Sadly,things happen,but David Marshall has had a very good career,even without quite hitting the heights I expected. And John Kennedy had his wrecked by an outrageous act of mindless violence against him in a friendly match while playing for his country. A disaster for him personally and professionally,and one too for everyone who could see how fine a player he was destined to be. Yet,sadly,destined not to be.

Artur will,by his own admission,agree that his own career never quite hit the highs that he looked destined for when we first saw him in 2005. But he had a magnificent career regardless of that. A Bournemouth fan of my acquaintance rates him as his club’s finest player ever,for example. 

His performances shaded towards the end of his time with us,as personal problems seemed to cause him on field issues too. That’s the kind of thing that many of us have seen for ourselves,bringing your personal issues to work with you. Maybe we’ve all done it,if we are honest! He moved on,his best days for us largely just good memories. Unlamented,in truth,as his form had dropped so precipitously.

Yet it was fitting that we should be the opponents in his final match,while he played for his boyhood club. He might not have been The Original Holy Goalie-you all know who that is!-and he might not even have been born a Celt. But he IS one,and you could tell how much he loved everything about our club.

Especially the bit that enjoys a bit of hunskelping..

Thanks,Artur. You were a wonderful example of the fine art of goalkeeping,and also of the truth in the old adage that you have to be mad to be a goalkeeper. And you could take a decent penalty anaw!

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Above article by BMCUWP

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McCaff

And Happy Anniversary to the couple in which the wummin wears the troosers AND the fitba bits…and was top scorer for a hunner seasons or so in the best Wummins’ League Ever! 😁😁
Have fun beating Mr ATOB at heedies and kicks in the living room! 🤣🤣🤣

A thing of beauty

McCaff,
As I’ve said I was not top scorer every season and had no wish to discuss my very low level sporting achievements. The discussion was mostly about woman’s football and the future of females in the game. I was only really giving my opinion on that.
Awe naw,
I have already admitted my glass is half empty. I also dont like to see players performing poorly and I’m seeing plenty of that pre season. Having said that, you and Ange’s point is valid in that the object of pre season is not to win these games. I’ll go along tomorrow but save you all my musings after the game. Roll on Aberdeen.

big packy

JNP yes thats my jumper thanks for finding it last time i seen it was in 1969 ,👍🤩🤩

jimthetim53

Packy at least you got the spellin rite on your jumpir!

big packy

CHEERS JIM🤩

McCaff

ATOB…I was only joking because you’d already corrected Bobby’s exaggerations!! I thought I might’ve caught you in a good mood but obviously not…did Mr ATOB beat you at heidies and kicks? 🤣🤣🤣

JimmynotPaul

McCaff. 8.24.
I think there will be a few kicks aimed at you, shortly. 😂😂💚

McCaff

JNP…haahaahaa! She knows what I look like, need to watch my back going into the games noo!! 🤣🤣🤣

Craig 76

A wee Friday night toe tapper

JimmynotPaul

McCaff.
Just had a message there, seemingly in Million Dollar Listing, Los Angeles, today, there was a house costing 48 million dollars, called Bundy.😂😂😂😂
Imagine calling your house after a gang from Pollok.😂😂

Awe Naw

ATOB

As always looking forward to you and fanatics analysis tomorrow. Btw I’ve been stoating about Frankfurt Central with my hoops on and wearing a pink carnation for 5 weeks now. Where are you both? 🙂

I’m just kidding as always

McCaff

JNP… heeheehee! Who messaged you, Right Move! Are you taking early retirement to go back to your roots! 🤣🤣🤣

JimmynotPaul

Awe Naw. 8.36.
This spring to mind, with Pink Carnations.
Hilarious last 5/10 mins or so.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H51OzGTFYUs

JimmynotPaul

McCaff 8.38.
😂😂
It got me thinking though, what if it was one of the maddies from there, living it up in L.A.
Kidding on they are a business man, but in reality good friends with The ” El Chappo ” gang.

McCaff

HaHaHa…that was exactly my first thought! Which McColgan have I no seen for a bit!! 😂😂😂

Gordon64

big packy

OK GHUYS, just about to leave for norwich so excited to see the hoops again in the flesh ,leaving now because it will be a bit more quiet on the motorway, have not been on the M6 since I retired a few years ago, plan to go down to junction 15 pick up the A50 to the M1, then come off the M1 at leicester, then pick up the A47 straight to norwich, wish me luck, GNAGB ALL

A thing of beauty

McCaff,
No worries. I just don’t want to come across as something I’m not. So it is heartening to see I have come across as a nippy sweetie 😂😂
Awe Naw,
I will get there at some point. Got a bit going on just now but I’ve not forgot. You can take the carnation out for just now though!!

jimthetim53

Enjoy yourself Packy! 🙂

jimthetim53

ATOB, you know how you come across? Honestly?
As someone who knows football.

bada bing1

JNP- It’s exactly that …..with a price increase….

McCaff

Big Jim Packy…I’ve only been to Norwich once, it was shut! No sorry, I mean it was shit!! 🤣
It was a boys’ holiday, when I was 18 with some mates from Wullie Low’s, on a fibreglass barge on the Norfolk Broads. There’s a few stories to be told about that holiday but not on here, especially as Jim probably knows the perpetrators and wrong UN’s! 😉😁

McCaff

Big Jim Packy…I’ll meet you in The Garnet tomorrow before the game and fill you in, it’s a dug friendly pub so you’ll be fine with the pooches.

Sol Kitts

Strange place, Norwich. Last time I was there I saw people giving each other high sixes.
It’s one of those places where if your girlfriend says she now wants to love you like a sister, it’s probably because she is your sister. 😂😂
I went to a wedding there once, nearly peed myself when the MC said it was time for the speeches, starting with the father of the bride and groom……true story.

A thing of beauty

JTT,
Thank you kind sir. I just love football and probably take it a bit too serious at times. The guys on here are right, a friendly is just that. I need to chill.

Philbhoy

ATOB

Best wishes to you both!

Hope you have had a great day!

Sol Kitts

ATOB
Just a thought. You said earlier that Mr ATOB knows nothing about the laws of fitba. Judging by your score on my quiz a couple of weeks ago, he’s not alone 😂😂😎

jimthetim53

Whenever I think of Norwich I always think of this, Delia Smith:

“In February 2005, Smith attracted attention during the half-time break of a home match against Manchester City. At the time Norwich were fighting an ultimately unsuccessful battle against relegation from the Premier League, and to rally the crowd, Smith grabbed the microphone from the club announcer on the pitch and said: “A message for the best football supporters in the world: we need a 12th man here. Where are you? Where are you? Let’s be ‘avin’ you! Come on!” Norwich lost the match 3–2.[17] Smith denied suggestions in the media that she had been drunk while delivering the speech though she did concede that “maybe in the heat of the moment I didn’t choose the best words”.[18][19]

Sol Kitts

Jimthetim53
She’d had a few too many cooking sherries, but wouldn’t you want your club chairman to show the same passion occasionally?

jimthetim53

Can’t imagine any Celtic directors being that passionate Sol.

A thing of beauty

Sol Kitts,
Correct.

Awe Naw

JNP

8.41 Just Brilliant. Those are the geniuses that shaped me. They don’t make them like that anymore. I bet that’s where my subconscious pulled that one out from. I was watching Outlander recently ….give me a break…I know…immigrant etc.The wife loves it with kraut subtitles and Frances de la tour was in it playing a nun …dead serious too…but I couldn’t stop laughing. Wife got pissed off. I need to finish that explanation. Thanks for reminding me.

Sol Kitts

ATOB
As I said at the time, the best players tend to be the ones who know least about the laws of the game.

Awe Naw

Post of mine has went AWOL

Sol Kitts

ESPN right now – the World Hot Dog Eating Competition, from Coney Island, New York. I kid you not.

Awe Naw

Two posts ?

How many url links is the maximum noo ?

Auldheid

ATOB

Its not FFP anymore, FFP has become Financial Sustainability and Club Licensing Regulations (FSCLR) and Andre Traverso, who knows fine well that Rangers lied to get a UEFA Licence in 2011 is behind the new rules.

This link talks of FSCLR https://theathletic.com/news/uefa-approves-new-financial-regulations-to-replace-ffp-new-squad-cost-rule-of-70-per-cent-of-revenue/nStOjscm115G/

Of some interest is the strengthening of policing of overdue payments to the tax man ” ‘Solvency’ means clubs cannot have overdue payables, for example to tax authorities, other clubs or employees. This has been the case under the club licensing regime but UEFA is strengthening it via quarterly checks and stiffer, automatic penalties.”

which suggest Res12 had some influence after all having posed these questions in May 2016 to Traverso see

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6uWzxhblAt9VlVMT2Q0cnFLdTQ/view?resourcekey=0-KgFdsuQbqP_qawitjwKyiA

This was before absolute proof that an accepted payable and not a liability under discussion existed at 31 March 2011 emerged in May 2018 in the form of HMRC minutes of 23 March 2011 see

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GigHfg7BJT9SC2PbVFZDwKfmlMZ5ElFs/view

Paras 17 to 21 is when Rangers accepted the liability was no longer potential and subject to further discussions with HMRC and sought approval from bank to pay yet a potential liability under discussions is what Rangers auditors told the SFA that enabled them to grant the licence.

However whilst FSCLR strengthens the rules to prevent clubs committing fraud like Rangers did in 2011, the question in Scotland will always be can the SFA be trusted to apply the new rules diligently to the current version of Rangers?

Awe Naw

Auldheid,

3 links Mhhhhh……

so what’s the maximum number of links per day ?

Awe Naw

Test

Auldheid

Awe Naw
Auldheid,

3 links Mhhhhh……

so what’s the maximum number of links per day ?
===========
I did wonder but chanced my arm with the sausages.

Awe Naw

Auldheid

not a single sausage for me any more 🙁

Gordon64

https://nypost.com/2022/07/22/fans-livid-over-ticketmaster-selling-5k-springsteen-tickets/

I’m sure you won’t see this @springsteen but you or your management need to have a word with the abhorrent criminals running @Ticketmaster who are charging exorbitant amounts to see you in concert. Please listen to your fans, nobody can afford these ridiculous ticket prices,” posted @Danny_Biggane.

“Dear kids, I just spent your inheritance on @springsteen tickets. Love, Mom.” tweeted @Kellylaw1216.

Gordon64

The Boss ‘Waitin on a money day’ ! 😜

Awe Naw

FSCLR has been devised with two main aims:

1) What you point out with regards local payables

and more pertinently

2) To permit ULIMITED investment into clubs from investors/owners anyone. For as long as this is permitted and that is why we have FSCLR. Then 1) will never really be an issue. What FSCLR is saying is you can do 2 all you like as long as you are also doing 1 and it´s official. Uefa approved.

So on other words FSCLR has been devised to prohibit only fraud relating to 1. Otherwise it is far more of a free for all than it was beforehand.

AlcaponeCSC

Auldheid

I was near Norwich once, Must have been early 90s at the Civil Service IT Training College (not its actual name but that was its function.)

I met an old colleague there from our National Savings Banks days at Cowglen, who had transferred to the Premium Bonds Office in St Annes a good few years earlier.

He was returning home by train but I had driven to Norwich so offered him a lift home on my way home.

He let his good lady know he was on his way back from the car and she insisted I stop over for the night, where Memory Lane was given a tanking.

In the morning I drove along the sea road to Blackpool and stopped off at The Pleasure Beach and sought out The Pepsi Max roller coaster.
At its height I could almost see Dublin and as I plunged down I prayed that one day I would grow up.

Got off, went back to my car and drove home.

I therefore have a pleasant memory of Norwich.

Awe Naw

Auldheid

Was Cliff Richard driving ?

The sea road from Norwich to Blackpool., What´s that ?

jimthetim53

Auldheid, LOL 🙂