Winning in first gear

It’s becoming our speciality, collecting the points without necessarily hitting second gear. That’s not just my opinion either, the manager admitted it afterwards.
“No real flow to the game” is the diplomatic way of saying we weren’t very good.

 

I thought his post match interview was very candid and revealing.
“It’s as much about the performances” is music to my ears, echoing my own sentiments.
“The first few weeks has almost been like an extended pre-season” also strikes a chord, and offers some insight into why we haven’t fully clicked yet.

 

It’s clear the blog is split on the team’s form, or lack of it.
Some state the win is the be all and end all, while some worry we aren’t properly gelling as we enter September with it’s testing fixtures.
Anges comment on performances suggests he shares the latter’s concerns, he’s looking for more than points.
That’s reassuring.

 

Our starting midfield trio however did not reassure. Again.
I’m hoping that was their last chance together, and there can be few complaints. We looked much better when Hatate was introduced.
It’s notable he played ahead of Calmac and not as the anchoring midfielder, the captain was once again given that role until Mooy was introduced.
When Hatate is available he should play, it’s that simple. I think he’s our best midfielder. Hardworking with a good pass, vision, and can shoot,,he takes Turnbull’s slot if I were king.

 

Up front I’m wondering if Maeda’s game is much more suited to Kyogos, and could this be part of the reason he’s our starting striker despite G-Mak having a better goals per minute ratio?
He prefers a mobile striker rather than a penalty box striker?
I’m leaning towards that theory.

 

That’s why our move for Haksaw is so intriguing. Will his style of play compliment the Greek striker? Abadas doesn’t, he cuts inside rather than outside and crossing the ball. Ditto Jota. As mentioned, Maeda suits his countryman more. James does suit G-Mak better than the others but doesn’t get much game time so a new option is needed. Haksaw it is then, and I’m expecting he and Gio to be paired together more often than not.
Few expected us to move for another winger, I view this attempt to upgrade that area as very heartening.

 

Central defense continues to impress me, the twin towers kept another clean sheet and exuded calmness. They are a great foundation to build upon.
Kyogo scoring in consecutive games is a positive, ditto his back up.
There are positives. Other clubs would love to have our ‘problem’ winning without playing well.

 

Stating the obvious, this could go either way. Either we are given a gubbing and are thus forced to change mentality and personnel, or we kick on from here and discover some form.
Some big games will force the issue.

 

Will the Bhoys step up or slip up?
Only time will tell.

By Mahe

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Gordon64

ASWGL

I think an interesting point is when Lazarus FC fae govan slip up and give us the chance to put some distance between them and ourselves, there is a bit of added psychological pressure put on the team.

I’m sure I noticed it in earlier seasons, that our next game would be tight, or less direct. It can become detrimental to our performance, for fear of blowing things. We know it shouldn’t but I feel it can affect at least some of the players, and possibly that’s why our play was less galvanized against the minis.

I agree Hatate should be in most starting line-ups, and Kyogo or GG is a nice problem to have for any manager.

HH

Gordon64

The coming months are going to be hard for everyone. No Tories on the Celtic board ! HH

Mahe

CFC,
I was pondering your comments re the site.

It’s my honest opinion we shouldn’t move to less articles.
Now don’t get me wrong, I fully understand your rationale, but less quantity doesn’t mean better quality.

We are three working blokes squeezing out a couple articles a week about the team we love, I’m well aware some articles come across as filler because they are, it’s the truth. The summer especially is hard to fill if there is no international tournament.
That’s our reality.

Plus some posters let us know they enjoy the daily article, and let’s face it, many do visit for that purpose. It’s not broken hence,,,
I find writing somewhat therapeutic, get the feeling the other contributors enjoy it also.

My dream/vision/goal is a different poster each six days we publish. We are halfway there.

I’ve issued pleas in the past, and I’m not the type of guy who asks.
You want something done,,,

But I’ll point out to yourself and all, that if two readers commit to an article every fortnight, there’s another day covered, considering alternate weeks.
That’s the majority of articles penned by a different author, true variation of opinion as the leader, and I’m not seeing that elsewhere.
Imo we need to break that barrier in order to go beyond it, but it’s the big target.
Two posters sharing a day.
Then the next level and so on.

Some of these comments could easily be the lead article.
We aren’t looking for huge paragraphs, hundreds of words, but rather a point to debate.
A simple question is fine for instance.
I’ll leave it there.

Thanks for your honest input.
Hail Hail

Gordon64

“That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin”
Nye Bevan – Eve of NHS Creation – July 4th 1948

Call me Gerry

Spot on with your leader, Mahe.
I too enjoy Ange’s post match interviews. He calls it straight. Can’t disagree with anything he said in today’s post match interview.

HH

Call me Gerry

From previous thread…

McCaff & CaltonTongues

It’s true that we can all watch the same game, and see things differently. Nobody’s right or wrong. It’s all just opinions. We all probably have an unconscious bias with certain players.

I like O’Riley for those moments were he tries quick incisive link up play. But if his team mates are not on the same wavelength it looks ineffective. When it comes off we look terrific.
He’s a number 10. Same as Turnbull, imo. But when played together, they can look as though they don’t compliment each other, and don’t quite gel. Turnbull isn’t as good as Hatate at the number 8 role, and I think that showed today.

I’d say Calmac is a better option at number 8 (if Hatate isn’t starting), but unfortunately Ange doesn’t trust Mooy (or McCarthy) to start at number 6 yet, and Ideguchi is currently injured; so Calmac is our starter at 6 every week so far.

Maybe when Ideguchi gets an injury free spell, we’ll see more of Calmac playing further forward? I’m hopeful that we’ll have that option as soon as Ideguchi is available.

HH

Aff to my kip now, for work tomorrow. Later 👍

GFTB

Call Me Gerry 12.46am

Exactly … we all see a different game, one of the reasons that Jobo’s POTY is so enjoyable … I might disagree with other fans selections but it’s interesting all the same …

My niece is currently in Wishaw getting induced so even though I was trying to go for a kip the eyes won’t shut until the great nephew appears 🙂

Highland Paddy

Will the Bhoys step up or slip up ?
Only time will tell.

By Mahe.

Well they’d both better step up and not slip up in The Glasgow Derby Match that’s up and coming !

That’ll be if we’re not decimated by the agriculturel type of thuggery we’re liable to encounter in the midweek running up to it by Ross County at Dingwall – Jeez they can fair dish it out that mob up there…

In the same Sportscene programme that I’ve just finished watching, the summariser Rory Loy was very fair in the Celtic v Hearts match, agreed with the two sending offs for Hearts and gave The Hoops some generous praise – very unusual indeed for BBC Scotland and a welcome change especially as he’s got some loose connection to the former Rangers / Sevco ! – though I was blethering to a buddy on the mobi earlier that listened in on BBC Radio Scotland and he said the commentator was a disgrace, constantly willing Hearts to equalise, very negative about Celtic and his summariser was just as bad, but I don’t know who they were, but I’m not surprised at all, though I am pleasantly surprised by Hearts TV today and that guy Rory Loy tonight in the Sportscene commentary !

Great to have a free week for The Hoops and now turn to be a temporary Eindhoven fan come Wednesday !!!

Mahe

Paddy,
Hand on heart what’s killing me is the uncertainty.
I honestly don’t know which type of team we are at this stage.
I would not be surprised if we got gubbed four or five by someone decent, but then equally I wouldn’t be surprised if this team turn a ‘name’ over.
We could be a good team, but right now only do what we need to do.
We don’t go out and perform like a good team.
Yet.

Is the spark still there?
Soon find out. September brings some big games that will bring answers I reckon.

Hail Hail fae the heat

Gordon64

Rebus67

My suspension is served…three days in the cooler for inaccuracy.

Lessons learned, perhaps!

The match?

It was the best of Celtic,
It was the worst of Celtic,
It was the age of Champions, it was the age of runners-up….

Apologies, Charlie, but so it unfolds….

First the good news, we have many gifted players who will realise large fees. They will also win matches. Jota, O’Riley, Hatate will net the club mega bucks.

Now the bad. According to this display, Celtic are a million miles from a good European team. How often did you see a player pass to another and immediately receive the ball back? That is a sign of a fake. Looks good but nothing comes from it. Then CCV passes to Jenz and nothing comes of it. It is the easy option. Ditto, Jenz passes to CCV and we have rinse and repeat.

Sadly, T’bull is a good player in the wrong team. Best for both parties that he moves on before his career is wasted. Hatate is infinitely superior. Mooy? Why?

I freely admit that I did not see the plan at the beginning of last season, incorrectly. I hope I am once again blindsided, but on the evidence of the second half that is a team drifting in space having lost all contact with gravity. Buying another winger, pourquoi?

Ange has a little finger that knows more about football than I do, but I fear we are drifting in space. Talented players will only win where they are faced with less talented players. Where is the system?

Rebus

Rebus67

Wow,

Just read the rest of the blog to date. It echoes my views! How disturbing, I may be correct.

Mahe,

That was a very honest post re leaders. I promise to be more understanding in the future.

Rebus

Mahe

Rebus,
Gracias amigo. Great observations btw.
Hail Hail

Mahe

Rebus imo the new winger is to bring the best out of G-Mak. Play to his strengths etc. The others don’t, James excepted.

CFC

Mahe 12.28

Thanks for your considered reply to my earlier post.

I respect the work you guys put in creating a vibrant forum that channels good debate, chat and isn’t characterised by sniping and petty infighting.

I take your point re the lead articles and others have stated that they look forward to their daily read.

In the year or so I’ve engaged on SC the number of new posters is steadily growing. A positive sign
that things are going in the right direction.
Different opinion pieces would help broaden the appeal of the site.

It is something myself and others should consider. I agree, there are many comments made that are worthy of being topics in themselves.
Writing 4/500 words plus is maybe too daunting a prospect, and perhaps there is a reluctance to stick one’s head above the parapet.
However, it’s definitely not beyond the individual posters on here to put a few paragraphs together on a range of relevant subjects.

Best entry gets a £10 book token!😀
Do those still exist?

Bigrailroadblues

Good morning all from Govanhill. Ustath running tonight at Southwell 6.40. It’s a hot little handicap but I reckon he’ll get placed at least. Bet sensibly, just ignore this post. 🤣

JimmynotPaul

Morning all.
A fair assessment of how Celtic are, at the moment, Mahe.
The manager also touched on, as if it was almost like pre season, as we are only playing one game, a week, and he’s trying to get game minutes, into the squad.
As we all know, usually we have qualifiers, at this time.
This all changes from next Sunday, where apart from international breaks, we play every mid week.
I’m happy at 12/12 and enjoy beating Hearts always, but accept we haven’t hit the heights yet.
CFC/Mahe.
I followed the debate on articles.
Mahe a really honest assessment, about the blog and very positive, no glass half full there, my friend. I reckon you kid us on about glass being half empty.
A few of us have written leaders, in the past, but for whatever reason, this hasn’t happened so much, lately, I’m one of the guilty ones.
If any of us, have the time and inclination, I think we should do our best, to, even, aim for one article a month.
It would only take a small amount of posters, to do that, to make a big difference, to Mahe and BMCUW.

Jobo Baldie

Good morning, friends. Don’t forget now SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM

Billy Bhoy

I can’t disagree with any of that Mahe. Its maybe a bit too early to say that we haven’t kicked on from last season BUT there was a heartstopping (ignore the pun) moment before HT when Hearts broke upfield. We were all over the place. The ball was moved over to the right side and Ginelly was in acres of space. As he was bearing down on goal, from my vantage point in North Stand Upper, I could see that Hart was miles off his line. A quality player ala Kyogo would have simply lifted it over the keeper. Fortunately for us the Jambo put his laces through it and almost hit the corner flag on the other side.

If that had gone in there’s no doubt we would have really struggled to get a winner given how we played the game out – although I suppose it would have galvanised the crowd and the team may have found that elusive fourth gear🤔

Prestonpans bhoys

Its impossible for every game to play great in a season. The first half was fine, could have added a goal or two. The second half was dire, even hertz had a 15 minute spell although they did nothing with it, not a shot on target in the whole game.

Surprisingly the normal second half substitutes made no impact, personally I was looking forward to the final whistle! As for their managers mumbling, Jim Jeffries II, if you didn’t get a shot in the first 90 minutes, then its highly optimistic to get one in four minutes of ET. So the sending offs were irrelevant.

fan

Watched Hearts in Europe midweek.
They played a lot less of the disruptive style they used yesterday.
The constant bumping and contact was not on show as they were well aware European refs won’t tolerate.
We lacked fluidity but that was as much due to Hearts gameplan as our own frailty
The poor displays in Europe by Scottish teams is no surprise as they have to change their game due to differing refereeing standards.
Watching the huns against PSV was interesting as the incredulity they showed when the referee administered the game fairly was amusing and an eyeopener.
Celtic undoubtedly have superior players but the leveling up by referees tolerance to opponents physical game makes it no surprise that we can’t always display free flowing skillful football.

Billy Bhoy

Fan

I mentioned this the other day. In midweek their first yellow card was in the 80th minute. I said there’s no way they’re achieving that against us. Mind you, I didnt see five yellows and two reds!

Billy Bhoy

Guys

I seem to have lost a lengthy post earlier. I don’t know if the issue was at my end or your end.

CFC

Watched the game in “ mixed” company.
The Jambos were anticipating a horsing, as were we.
I felt the Hearts squad players were out to impress the only way they could against us.
Play it tight and hope for a set piece.
Not a comfortable watch, with a 1 goal lead the opposition will always be in with a shout, but even the Jambos conceded we hardly needed to get out of first gear.

A satisfactory start to league business – Full points, 12-1 and two ahead.
We don’t want to peak too soon!

Plenty more to come from this squad. Another week of “pre season” and we should be a lot fitter than we were last season. A criticism in the cup semi I recall.

Jobo Baldie

How interesting is this (or maybe it’s just me). I’ve just checked the first 10 emails and we have 4 players with 4 votes, 3 with 3, 1 with 2 and 3 with 1. This is shaping up to be the most open vote so far.
sencelpoty@gmail.com

St tams

Mahe, my own summary of the game was very similar to yours.
I think most of us have being saying for the last 3 games , that Hatate is a big miss from the midfield.

Anyone else having issues voting for Jobos POTY?

Jobo Baldie

What’s the issue St Tams? 50 emails already received. Maybe I misspelt one of my links? It should be sencelpoty@gmail.com

Jobo Baldie

Maybe I misunderstood the question – it’s not a technical issue with voting, rather it’s trying to decide which 3 get your vote? I’ll be off the chat for a while (babysitting as usual!) but will check back later…

Big Audio Dynamite

If Sevco, or anyone else, were unbeaten for a year and winning without getting out of first gear, I’d be extremely worried and bloody depressed! Personally, it’s only the bottom line that matters to me where the league is concerned, and I’ll happy settle for another 34 wins like yesterday if it means winning the title again.

19/9/21 was the last time we lost a league game …a whole calendar year!
Compare that record to some of the times you have lived through with Celtic.
Wonder what TB would have given for that record.
Try and enjoy these times, and don’t let the agent provocateurs influence your thoughts or enjoyment …that’s exactly what they want.

Big Audio Dynamite

From 2016/17 we have played around 230 league games,, we have lost just 19 games in that time!
That is an absolutely incredible level of consistency.

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Twisty

My thoughts pre season were that were was very little between them and us. I figured the 4 x head to heads would determine the destiny of the title, and whilst obviously, those 4 matches are still crucial, my opinion has shifted somewhat.
I’m in no doubt we have the better squad. Having seen their first few matches, admittedly highlights only, I’d say the 2 points they shipped yesterday v what I consider to be a poor Hibs side, won’t be the last points they drop on their travels.

Goldson is a weak centre back. Tavernier is a better winger than full back. Kent, who can be a match winner on occasion, is inconsistent. They’ve one forward they are now almost totally reliant on, Colak. It’s clear Morelos is not trusted.

A couple of injuries and they’ll be in trouble.

Of course, the impending head to head will still prove tricky, but current form would suggest we can take all three points. If we do, having managed to overcome a poor Dundee Utd side next week. to give ourselves a minimum of a 5 point cushion, the pressure on them will mount dramatically, especially if it comes on the back of them exiting the CL.
They didn’t react too well to pressure in their league campaign last season. No reason to suspect they’ll be any better this time.

Domestically, I’m confident the league will be ours. Having said all of that, I’m not in disagreement with Mahe’s thoughts. We’re still far from the consistency we’d need to put the league to bed as early as we’d all wish, but listening to Ange, he clearly thinks there needs to be improvement. I’d regard that as a positive.

Outside of Scotland, we are about to see just how close we are to the top pot 1 and 2 teams, and regardless which top teamd that happens to be, I’d think it’s quite a large gap. The pot 3 opponents will tell us more.
I’m not sure Ange will be able to influence the European matches enough despite his obvious talents as a manager. I think the financial difference leaves him with a huge challenge. It’s a challenge he won’t shirk from, but one which would be a pretty tough ask for any manager you care to name.
The one advantage he will definitely enjoy is the support. Perhaps the ‘ extra man’ factor will see us pick up 4 or 5 points at CP.

I’m actually looking forward to the draw now. No point in fearing it. I’d like a German side, but that’s for selfish reasons. I know where I can get cheap digs in Germany , but if it is a Man City, Real Madrid or the likes, so be it.

JimmynotPaul

From Celtic F.C. Twitter.
Tickets for our home match v. Livingston in September are now sold out.

St tams

Jobo , email was returned, saying undeliverable.
I’ve just sent it again.
Problem might be at my end

St tams

Jobo , that’s it now 👍

Billy Bhoy

I see Sevco have appealed the red card for Lundstrom. They will be happy to see that Dermot Gallagher has just downgraded it on Sky Refwatch. He said it was identical to the Trippier one from Newcastle v Citeh which was downgraded on the spot by VAR yesterday.

It wasn’t “identical” though. Trippier is not a thug!

JimmynotPaul

Any news, yet, of a potential referees strike.
If this was Celtic targeting the same referee, in this kind of manner, twice, we all know what the reaction would be.

Rangers have expressed concerns about the officiating of Willie Collum to the SFA after his display on Saturday.

They previously complained about his performance in November 2019.

Club are confident Lundstram’s red card will be overturned at tribunal.

https://t.co/y3sDRDqBcA

GFTB

August is a very busy month for our family and today my niece brought another wee Bhoy into the Celtic family, no name yet but now shares the same birthday as one if his “big” brothers as our Jude is 4 today …

Mum & baby doing well, father is over the moon, a big Celtic fan even though him and Johnny Russell were the only 2 Celtic fans in their year at Coatbrig High … think my nephew-in-law still thinks he was the better player but am afraid Johnny R has done a bit better fitba wise

Just watched our highlights again, thought DT and GT both played some clever passes and dangerous balls into the box … Kyogo & Maeda linking up are a joy to watch

I canny wait for the CL draw, will let Ange worry about our opponents … I think we will surprise a few teams this season … 3rd is our aim but I think we might even sneak 2nd place … don’t think we’ll top the section until I know who we are facing

JimmynotPaul

G.F.T.B. 12.50.
Many congratulations to your niece and extended family,
I assume they are both doing well.

McCaff

Afternoon all…good news for the FTB family, congrats to all G!

GFTB

JNP & McCaff

Cheers… keeping them in for 24hrs just to monitor them, just been told they are naming him Shay but no middle name yet … I suggested Shay Gerard … his two big brothers are Finn Michael (6) and Jude Patrick (4) wee Finn is Celtic daft and his dad took him to Tannadice for his first away game when we won the league last season … he is Celtic daft

Back to the fitba … 🙂

McCaff

Twisty…I think we need to separate “performance” and “consistency”. Celtic have been the most consistent team in the League in almost every department. so far; 4 played, 4 won, most goals scored, least goals conceded, most clean sheets, most shots on goal and on target, fewest fouls conceded. A decent level of consistency, surely. As for performance, well we’re definitely not were we think we should be, and Ange spoiled us last year with the entertaining fitba we’re all looking for now, but given that we are miles ahead of the same time last season it’s too early to seriously concerned.
#PedantsAreWeCSC

McCaff

GFTB…”Gerhard” is a proud name, a hybrid of the German “ger” meaning spear and “hard” meaning “strong”. I found this out as part of our Confirmation preparation over 45 years ago and it sticks with me. As I was always the youngest and wee-est in the class to find out Paul Gerard meant “little one, strong as spear” meant that I was scared of no one, my name fitted me perfectly! Took a few doings trying to back it up, right enough!! 🤣🤣🤣

McCaff

Correction to 1.07 post…
#PedantsAreWeeCSC
😉😁

Twisty

McCaff
I’m not “seriously concerned”

The consistency aspect I’d like to see improvement on is our attempts at goal. Middle to front our play can lack that final pass or attempt on goal.

Sundays match we had our fewest attempts on goal this season. Jota was poorer on Sunday ( imo). Turnbull is inconsistent. O’Reilly the same. McGregor I thought was excellent on Sunday as was Taylor last week, but those two can also show inconsistencies week to week.

Hearts were poor ( and fielded a weakened team)

As I said in my previous post, I’m sure we are good enough to win the title. To give us the opportunity compete v pot teams in Europe, and indeed to put up some level of performance at home v all our European opponents, I’d simply like to see us even more clinical in the final third and to see our players find consistency in their performances.
Actually I think we are probably in agreement and it may simply be my clumsy wording!

Twisty

GFTB

Congrats!!

BRRB

Ty for the heads up

McCaff

Twists…is wasn’t directed at you, per se, just that the narrative appears to have expected Celtic to hit the ground running, picking up from where we left off last season. I know you didn’t say you were seriously concerned, that was directed to the collective ie all of us who can see that the performances are not as we hoped…but we’re still getting good results – and stats – without hitting the entertainment expectations! I’m in agreement with you but the use of consistency seemed out of place! As I said…PedantsAreWeeCSC!

McCaff

Let’s agree to agree, then!! 🤣🤣🤣