The Real Deal

Morning,all.

Last night,I think we gave the reigning champions of Europe a genuine scare. We looked every inch as though we belonged in this tournament,with high intensity pressing off the ball and some wonderfully incisive passing when we eventually got a hold of the damn thing.

All that was lacking,particularly in the first half,was the finishing touch. But Bhoy,did we come so close to applying that too.

Reo had a blistering shot parried away by Courtois in the Real goal,Abada had a couple of chances that on another night he would probably have tucked away. CalMac had the closest effort of them all when his thumping shot from just outside the area hit the inside of the post before bouncing clear.

The closest of margins,but it is often the case that such fine margins can do you down. And so it proved.

After Maeda had missed an early second half sitter-let’s be honest,it was!-Real simply upped the ante. I don’t think we tired particularly,or ran out of steam-but we simply had no answer to Real’s passing and movement. Down our right were Mendy and Vinicius,while our left was ripped apart by Modric and Valverde.

At 37yo,I don’t know how Modric can still maintain the pace that was set by both sides last night. Obvoiusly I wish that he couldn’t. But he can and he does. He was probably the Man of the Match last night,more probably too the defining difference between the two sides.

Or might that have been their ability to take their chances and also to remain tight-if sometimes fortunate-at the back? Or our inability to do either on the night? The truth is probably a mix of both.

But I doubt that any team could have lived with Real’s passing and movement last night,particularly in the second half. It was a stunning performance from them,and we should hold our heads high that we gave them such an almighty scare. I don’t think there are lessons to be learned from our performance on the night,we did very little wrong.

We just couldn’t get enough of the ball from a very good footballing team indeed. And we came up against a player in Modric who put on a wonder show. Many of us hoped for a result on the night,many more would have believed it was possible while we watched that first half. But we know that the final positions in the group will be decided by the games which DON’T involve Madrid.

If we maintain the levels of performance we have seen so far,I can see us joining Real in the knockout stages after Christmas. And if we are honest,that is all we could hope for after the draw was made anyway.

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IniquitousIV

Bobby,

It’s all about the finishing. It absolutely has to be cold blooded, deadly and clinical.

Case in point – our next opponent. They had only 32% possession in Leipzig, and 1 corner to the Germans’ 9, but just look at their chance conversion. They had 5 shots to Leipzig’s 13, and converted 4 of them. We had 10 shots tonight, and zilch, nada, zero.

What worries me is Maryan Schved, who we released without giving a real chance, despite him scoring a belter away in Latvia. Scored twice tonight and has a big incentive next week in Poland.

Prestonpans bhoys

Just in bloody M8 shut after J7😈 Madrid very clinical. As for Maeda’s effort, it was more difficult to miss than not score. Cot time zzzzz

16 roads

We live in hope – Realistically though,they can’t ever be replicated ,never mind equaled.

Not by us,nor anyone else.

https://youtu.be/6cZdLGxacYU

🦁 🍀 🏆

Thetic

I was shocked how good Celtic played last night. Thinking back the last 2 years and comparing it was like night and day. I hate to think about it but what would Ange do to a Team with a budget of $200 mil
I am going to enjoy him while he is here
Proud of the team and the fans well done. It was rightfully called the beautiful game

Big Audio Dynamite

But for the width of a post, we are looking at a very different night and outcome.

Ktf 💚

CFC

Reflections on a game of two halves.

Due to the quality of our opponents our first half intensity seemed much more over eager and intense than it does domestically. Definitely felt like adrenaline was coursing through the veins at warp speed. And that was just me watching.

RM were definitely rattled and but for a mixture of bad luck and poor execution by our inexperienced Bhoys we should have bagged a goal or two. Ahead on points by halftime.

Second half and the capacity of RM to absorb what we had to offer, together with a midfield, Kroos and Modric particularly, that began to function with more precision pulling us about the park. No surprise really, these are superstar footballers. We ran an extra km a man due to their ability to hold the ball and punish with brilliant execution. No wonder we were knackered.

And that led to us being stretched and poor collective decision making.

None more so than the sight of both CCV and Jenz playing joint left full back leaving an empty chasm of an 18 yard box, save for a despairing JJ. Crazy defending.

The third goal a completely unhindered Carjaval sends the ball back across goal.
Where was the cover? Jota I assume should have been covering him.

Anyway gripe over, we learn from the clinical lesson and perspective says a valiant effort undone by far superior quality.

Our mini league of 4 games starts next week and I’m going to Warsaw. 12 points up for grabs.
We should be confident of 6 at home, two draws away May see us through?

We are on the CL learning curve. It’s going to be interesting.

CFC

Ps

Also thought the subs were deployed way too late.

Frodshambhoy

Morning all.
The morning after the night before and I still think there’s a huge amount to be pleased about. Room for improvement of course and Ange is the man to bring about improvement.
No team in Scotland could’ve lived with us in the first half last night. The second half drop wouldn’t have happened either against anyone in Scotland.

Bit harsh on Maeda. The cross (or was it a shot) was hammered at him so he had little time to react. Not saying he couldn’t have done better. The pace was on the ball so he just had to guide it rather than try and put his foot through it. Anyhows we should cut him some slack IMHO

We deserved to score and could easily have taken the lead. To be honest I’m not sure we would have kept the lead if we had scored first. They are a class act. A cut above so no shame in failing to keep up with them over 90 minutes.

On the 3rd goal BT said it came at the end of 33 passes. That was from the free kick. They had kept the ball for ages before the foul and we didn’t get near it. We looked out on our feet yet me managed to pick up again towards the end.
Lots to be proud about. Hail Hail

Frodshambhoy

This headline from The Mail puts things in perspective:

Real Madrid fans sing the praises of £100m outcast Eden Hazard as the Belgian comes off the bench to score.

£100m outcast 😳😳😳😳

Twisty

I mentioned yesterday I was uncharacteristically relaxed going into the game. Was a combination of limited expectation but nevertheless I was curious to see how our all out attacking style would fare v the best in Europe.
We opened with our usual 100mph attacks and created chances. On another night we could’ve scored at least twice but unfortunately Abada lacked the craft just when he’d the opportunity to put us ahead, and Calum’s wonderfully controlled effort found the post just an inch too wide.

I was concerned about Benzema pre match but was then disappointed to see him substituted. In those early stages he was anonymous. They were better without him last night.

At half time I was sitting absolutely thrilled with our first half efforts, but, like a lot of you I’m sure, was regretting we hadn’t netted at least once. As we awaited the second half I was transported back to the 70’s and to a fight I’m sure those of you of a certain vintage will remember. Ali v Foreman. The rope a dope fight as it was later labelled.
Ali stood taking everything Foreman had to offer, and throwing back very little in return. It was pretty obvious that Ali had the class to beat anyone, so when the chances arise to hurt him, woe betide anyone who doesn’t take them. We’d been very much the aggressors last night, but just like big George hadn’t put Ali away, we hadn’t bloodied the Real Madrid nose despite putting everything we had into the fight. Everything but the ko that is. When Maeda fluffed his lines it was to be the last punch we’d throw.The 8th round was looming large.
Madrid had soaked it up, and then showed the class we all knew they had.
Two huge blows within 4 mins of each other and the contest was as good as over.

I’d a sense of disappointment when it was all over. Not disappointed with our efforts, just disappointment borne out of the fact we’d created good openings but failed to take any of them. Never landed the ko punch.

This morning? I’m pragmatic about the outcome. I’m also very optimistic about our chances moving forward. Big George may have lost that night, but still won many more afterwards.
Like him, our next 4 battles won’t see us up against opponents of the class of Ali.
Onwards and upwards.

CFC

F B

Agree re DM miss. It was fired across and hit his standing foot. He had little time to adjust.

Frodshambhoy

Twisty
Good analogy

McCaff

Morning all…just taking the Lazy Man’s option today and repost my comment from last night when no-one was on – although I notice now hat TLR turned up.
It’s not too simple to compare the Squad Values and understand the reasons for a 3=0 defeat a home to the current CL Champions. Real’s £707m squad compared to our £97m shows the real difference in quality. Heading into tonight’s game we had no realistic chance of success but to be fair the Bhoys were absolutely sensational in the first half. It was always gonna be the case that if we didn’t take our chances we would pay for it – and so it was! But our game plan was executed as Ange wanted, we played his way…we were brave, we were aggressive and we showed no little skill in taking the game to Real in the first half. Who knows how the game would’ve panned out if Calmac’s strike had been an inch or two further inside but unfortunately them’s the breaks sometimes!!
We learned tonight that this team can compete, of course there’s the usual criticism but in my opinion we’ve come a helluva way in a short time and I saw more than enough to think we’re in the right competition this season!

McCaff

By the way, cheers again Twists for the free bet, it definitely added an interest to my viewing as Cletic won 2 corners in the first few minutes of the game…and Benzema was on the pitch! To no avail though as we spurned our best chances and Benzema wasn’t fit enough to compete against our 100mph Green Machine! C’est la vie!

McCaff

Got a busy day ahead so need to shoot but last night’s performance and effort gives plenty of cause for optimism! HH

McCaff

Oh aye, and seriously struggling for my 3 x MOM…I thought a few were sensational on the night!

Frodshambhoy

McCaff
Oh aye, and seriously struggling for my 3 x MOM…I thought a few were sensational on the night!

I meant to mention that too. Becoming a theme with this squad. I’ve narrowed it down to 6.
Jobo, why don’t you allow us to have 16 choices each game. Would make life a lot easier and stop my wee brain hurting after every match. 😁😁😁

St tams

Morning all.
Can’t really argue with any of that Bobby. It was a pleasure to be present to be at Celtic Park last night, especially to see the masterclass from Modric. I watched him closely in the second half when he didn’t have the ball. He was constantly on the move . Not long runs , just 3/ yard movements . But just never stood still or stopped.

The team will be disappointed, Ange certainly was . They should also be proud of their performance.
HH

Jobo Baldie

Good morning friends.
Nowhere near deflated as I usually am the morning after a European defeat. Heres what my own likely lasting memory of last night will be. At around the 88th minute we started singing the praises of Ange Postecoglu. Seemed like the whole stadium was emphasising that we had all bought into Anges way of thinking and approach to games. A complete endorsement and acknowledgement of a fine manager.
Reading back this morning, a half time post from IniquitousIV summed it up for me – “We might not win this, but at least we look as if we belong”
Keep the emails flowing in, please – SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM

SeS

Bobby

Good report and agree Modric was a sensation … yet again. At one point was thinking he must wilt .. then we have a wee chance … if we get subs on ( delayed that too long btw) although bringing a change to Abada was fair because the bhoy seemed a bit overwhelmed)

Modric just soaked it up and moved into overdrive and I can’t put into words how much I love watching this guy.

Was it the right change? I’d like to think Ange would do something different today in similar circumstances.

Loving reading the reviews and different perspectives on game – Twisty that was a perfect analogy and so true.

At half-time most of us probably Sussed that Ancelotti would tweak it … but what would he do?… obviously swapping a CH because his first choice was being run ragged by GG who was my POTY nomination by a mile.

His tactical change was more subtle, and I think Fan or CFC already pointed to their wingers dropping narrow to free up space on flanks, but need to watch it again without all the buzzing in my head.

Like others, might struggle to pick another two- as much of a muchness really – felt both McGregor & Hatate played very well but have a tendency to hold the ball too long before releasing.

See this as a consequence of having far too much time in domestic games. However, it’s only a small critique, as they both worked so hard and some of their passing was devastating, especially early on.

Jota with one pass to Abada made me think I was watching Brazil 1970 – that deserved a better finish but I’m not going to complain, as on any other night Abada would have chosen another option – I think it was an ex-Madrid and Liverpool player Michael Owen who said HE Would have cut inside, but if choosing to shoot it needed full force rattle, not trying to place it from distance past the best keeper in the world.

Hope our bhoy watches and learns because it might complete him as a player in future.

The teamcan now have a full review – lots to do more of and keep the same – change the ratio of chances:goals. Someone also referenced what Shaktar achieved 4:5 ?? That’s deadly btw!

Lots to admire about last nite.

Well done. To all concerned.

Ange and players must review, review, review .. then kick on…

Awe Naw

leipzig-sack-tedesco-hinkel

Frodshambhoy

Awe Naw
leipzig-sack-tedesco-hinkel

Quite right they lost at home by 3 goals.
Any manager should get sacked after that.

Ooohh- wait a minute

Twisty

McCaff
It was only the btts element that beat you. The Benzema part became void when he went off the field at 0-0.

The reduced payout was going to be just under £30 had the bhoys scored.

Awe Naw

Tuchel gone

fan

Are we in danger of over egging the pudding on last nights performance?
Some good and some not so good performances from the players,
Also an opposition coach who sussed our system at half time and we never countered their changes.
Hatate,Gio and Kyogo all look ready at this level.Jota improved and showed some flashes in second.
Mooy,McGregor and O’Riley performed adequately and will improve.
Taylor was not noticeable in attack or defense.CCV was positionally poor,Jenz ok but JJ was poor.
Occassion was too big for Abada.
Haksabanovic looks promising.
Lot’s of good stuff from our young team but enough poor to remain cautious about.

CFC

Kroos and Modric, two of the finest players in the world, took control. No shame there.

Of course remain cautious but there was enough in our performance to improve upon in games against group contenders who are miles away from RM’s level, and closer to ours.
I think we congratulate the players on a wholehearted performance but reserve judgement for the 4 key group games.

We are on a learning curve here.

McCaff

Fan, having competed for decent spells in the game, against probably the best Club side in the world at present…no, I don’t think there is a danger of over-egging the pudding. It’s clear from the comments last night and today that we understand where we are. Can we compete with Shaktar and Liepzig? On last night’s performance I’d say we can. I thought Calmac was in the top 3 Celtic players last night, along with Hatate and GG. I also thought JJ showed up well but it shows that we all see the game a bit differently. Only a year ago how do you think we’d have coped with that Madrid team, not many of us would have thought that we’d have been able to put on a performance like last night. The fact that Ancelotti recognised what he had to do and did it surely shows that Celtic got something right on the night. But, of course, we’ve got a ton of work to do but there’s no denying we’ve come a helluva way in a short time.

Prestonpans bhoys

As I said here or on the other channel, you don’t expect pot 4 team to give a pot 1 team a run for its money as we did ( current europa champions excluded). Moreover against current CL champions too.

Not had time to watch the game again but did run it to the Maeda miss (knew it was around 52 minutes) and stand by what I said at 1am, all about opinions…..

Anyways talked two guys to stop using their cars and use our CSC, so far……. first game tire burst and didn’t get home till 10. Second game bypass shut and had to go via Edinburgh suburbs, three hours to Glesga. last night monsoon hits East Lothian and bypass grinds to a halt. Coming back M8 shut, in all over five hours on a bus. Now these are not long distance comfortable coaches, they are intended to get a party from A to B not over 100 miles round trip, sore arse😕

Thankfully not going Saturday , can’t stand Livingston or their manager, someone else can have the ticket😵😱

The Fenian Whaler

Fan @ 1:01 pm

Agree “Some good and some not-so-good performances from the players” and I’d add some seemingly overawed by their opponents. “an opposition coach who sussed our system at halftime and we never countered their changes”, also correct. Now was this a lack of pragmatism by Ange or maybe his not yet having the players available in order to change the system mid-game?
However, as mentioned by others our Europen progress under Ange will be measured against RB and Shaktar not the Galacticos of Madrid.
All in all, I thought we gave a bloody good account of ourselves, and there was certainly no meekly accepting a doin’ as we have become accustomed to on our recent forays into European competition.

The Fenian Whaler

Our Brendan is now one of the favorites for the Chelski hot seat. 🤔😲

Mihal

I’ve just been listening to an interesting documentary about Brazilian football on Radio 4 : “ The History of Brazil is Round “.

Nike signed a huge deal with Brazil in 1996 . Brazil were beaten in the 98 World Cup Final, so inquiries were set up .

Fluminese had been relegated , but were saved by corruption , bribery and favouritism. The inquiries uncovered financial irregularities, illegal payments, tax evasion …..all the stuff we here in Scottish Football are well versed in .

Brazil won in 2002 , so all inquiries were halted . The reasoning being a kind of motto : stealing is okay if you win .

This was Brazil at the time , a third world country, under the dictatorship of a military junta . And yet it compares to Scottish Football today ? Shameful.

( oh , I thought we were almost brilliant last night ! )

Bigrailroadblues

Good afternoon all from Shawlands. Am I meeting anyone for a beer on Friday? It’s been a tiring few days. 🙄🍻

Bigrailroadblues

And if not, why not?🤣🇮🇪

Leggy

Afternoon all,

Definitely a few differing views on MOTM last night.

I went for

McGregor
Hatate
JJ ( Just ahead of GG )

Results will be interesting tonight.

Also thought the first 45 minutes was extraordinary from both teams. 👏👏👏👏👏
Great entertainment !!!!!!!!

The Fenian Whaler

Best MSM comment, from Michael Stewart.

“There is no shame that from Celtic tonight. There’s a way to lose a game of football. They can hold their heads high. They went up against the champions of Europe and acquitted themselves very, very well.”

CFC

Reo Calmac GG for me. JJ honourable mention.

We are definitely on the right road.
Thought the young ones Matt n Liel got a bit overawed.
Great experience for them. They will learn as will older guys like CCV who positionally was lacking in second half. Watch him at all three goals.
New to him too I guess.
Observations not criticisms.

It’s how we improve. Playing likes of Real not Bodo.

Next four games will show us how we are progressing.

Learning curve.

Frodshambhoy

Leggy- POTY

I had same 3 as you then made a last minute change to replace JJ with GG.
Saw loads of bad press for JJ which probably influenced me. Watching live I thought he kept going to the end and finished stronger than most.

Jobo Baldie

53 folk have voted so far. I must admit I thought the turnout might have been higher based on my assumption that surely almost all posters and lurkers would have watched last night’s game. Everyone’s opinion counts for the same here so even if you’ve not voted in the first 7 games, why not make a debut tonight. Just fire an email over to me before 10pm with your 3 nominations and they’ll count just as much as the ones that came in right after the final whistle. SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM
Now, is it too early to mention that my big brother has lived in Holland for over 40 years and so I feel obliged to support a Dutch team this evening, even though they are up against one who plays in Scotland. Kick off is in 20 minutes and I hope Ajax score a barrowload!

St tams

PB
You’ll need to move through to Glasgow 🤣🤣

IniquitousIV

Tuning in hoping to see an Ajax victory, and noticed a sign for a “Doping Control Room” in the stadium tunnel. Didn’t realize this was routine procedure in the Dutch Eredivisie.

IniquitousIV

Ajax build up far too slow so far, enabling Huns to swarm back. Noticeable that McLaughlin is punting long rather than passing from back.

IniquitousIV

Dire stuff from both sides in Amsterdam in first 10 minutes. Ajax looking like Eindhoven so far.

Sol Kitts

Huns lucky not to be a goal down, free header to Ajax attacker 4 yards out, heads over.

IniquitousIV

Ajax picking up the pace now.

Sol Kitts

IniquitousIV
I find it amazing how teams play against them. We’ve shown twice this year how to tear them apart, but it seems no-one has watched us do it. Or maybe Angeball is beyond them…..

IniquitousIV

Huns away tactic is to grind teams down, play on the counter, and wait for a mistake.

CFC

Ajax way ahead of PSV

Oops 1-0

IniquitousIV

Yaas!

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