8th September …. if you know your history

60 years ago … 1962 and on this Day (Saturday) we play the original Rangers in a league match at Paradise in front of 72,000. Interesting to see Bobby Murdoch playing inside Left in the days before Jock came in and converted him to the role he excelled in. Another re ploy by manager McGrory was to employ Yogi. Hughes as centre forward against McKinnon, who didn’t fancy duels against our big man. ( Sentinels help on this?)

Crerand missed a penalty after some dodgy disruption delaying tactics by the old Teddies’ players, regarding the positioning of the ball on the spot.

Unfortunately, the Bhoys lost out to a Willie Henderson goal, and surely the ‘other’ wee man would enjoy winding up a few Coatbridge lads about that winner in his bar over the years…

1962-09-08: Celtic 0-1 Rangers, League Division 1

Rangers had just come off of their first round home tie of the European Cup Winners Cup against Seville winning 4-0. Dundee had done even better in their first round European Cup game at home to Cologne winning 8-1.

Just before kick off hundreds who had been waiting at the main entrance rushed the Janefield Street entrance which gave way under pressure. 19 people were injured. A further two were taken to hospital when they were crushed against a barrier inside the ground.

Celtic: Haffey; MacKay Kennedy; Crerand McNeill, Price; Lennox, Gallagher, Hughes, Murdoch, Byrne.

Rangers:
Ritchie; Shearer, Caldow; Davis, McKinnon, Baxter; Henderson, Greig, Millar, Brand, Wilson.
Scorer: Henderson (84)

Referee: W M Syme (Glasgow)
Attendance: 72,000

In other news … Billy Price born in Tarbolton, Ayrshire -was signed to add his silly skills and hopes were high that his inclusion in the team as a regular in 61/62 and 62/63 (74 appearances and 3 goals) would finally see Celts achieve a new dawn. There is a suggestion he may have taken the ‘fall’ for a series of 3 defeats in a row to Old Rangers, and he moved on losing his position to Jim Kennedy.

The Celticwiki include an excellent article by David Potter/ Celtic Star on the story of the ‘political shirt’ and the only one left in existence was Billy Price’ shirt rescued from the flames by Billy McNeill’ ( maybe older Sentinels can explain why there is a number (6) on the back?)

“Political shirt” Only surviving ( no 6 Billy Price)

A few days later (Monday) Celtic and 72,009 fans welcomed Real Madrid to Paradise for a friendly match:

1962-09-10: Celtic 1-3 Real Madrid, Friendly

This game was the idea of Glasgow businessman and Celtic supporter Max Benjamin who wanted to raise money for the Jewish National Fund Charitable Trust and the rehabilitation of refugee woman and children from Europe and north Africa.

Paradise welcome world fitba’s superstars: Di Stefano, Puskas and Gento et al

“That Celtic support, it amazed me. Never anywhere in the world have I seen such enthusiasm or heard such encouragement. I wish I could take them back to support my club in Spain.”
The legendary Ferenc Puskas,

Teams

Celtic: Haffey; MacKay & Kennedy; Crerand, McNeill, Price; Lennox (Carroll 45), Gallagher; Hughes (Chalmers), Jackson, Brogan (Byrne 45)

Scorer: Chalmers (62)

Real Madrid:
Ariquistain; Casado, Miera; Muller, Santamaria, Pachin; Bueno, Amancio, Di Stefano, Puskas, Gento.
Scorers: Puskas (10), Amancio (30), Gento (61).

Referee: L Horn (Holland)
Attendance: 72,000

General stuff…

1504 Michelangelo’s statue of David is unveiled in Florence

1664 Dutch surrender colony of New Netherlands (including New York) to 300 English soldiers… New Amsterdam..

1858 Abraham Lincoln supposedly says in a speech “You may fool all the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all the time” (aye!)

1952 US National Championship Women’s Tennis, Forest Hills, NY: Defending champion Maureen Connolly beats fellow American Doris Hart 6-3, 7-5

1990 Ellis Island Historical Site opens on Ellis Island NYC

1991 Macedonia votes for independence from Yugoslavia

Note: The excellent Celtic Wiki site is the font of all knowledge on things Celtic. Most of the Celtic stuffabove is from that site. The guys who set it up and painstakingly keep it updated, deserve no end of credit, praise and thanks. A treasure trove for Celtic fans young and old – and new- and free to view.

Respect Bhoys !

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/

Guest article by SeS

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TheNabbla

Congratulations Ses many thanks in adding to the knowledge timeline.it was also the day Willie mcVie,clugger stinted the growth in Brian McLaughlins career in 1973.

Hail Hail good Celts

The Real McCoy

Thanks again SES 🙏🏻👍🏻👏👏👏
Nearly my era . Just before my time 😂
However I recognise all those players names, most of whom would become my idols 💚
Some early morning tunes :-

Neil Sedaka— The Immigrant

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yQ2f1KtKc

JJ ( Jinky) Gilmour— The American Dream

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HrR90b3xLgI

Gerard Kenny— New York, New York

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsi5lXxzByU

Have A Nice Day Now , Y’all
HH💚🍀

SeS

The Nabbla – thanks for sharing info buddy- that was in my period of attending games but don’t remember the actual incident – recall a bit about the aftermath and would be helpful to learn more.

The Real McCoy – aye, likewise buddy , the end of one era and beginning of something new. Sense we are in the foothills of a similar situation

Thetic

I was going to St Marks school in Shettleston, my pal was at st Paul’s one of the students at St Paul’s dad played forThird Lanark. He had access to tickets. I think they were ten shillings each. It was not long after watching On tv Real demolish Eintract in the Euro Cup final. I told my dad He said get three tickets. My dad was a steel erector and so was his pal Eddie Miller, we went to the game under the floodlights at Parkhead. Under the floodlights May sound common to most of you but floodlight games were not common back then as most clubs could not afford the money to install lights suitable to host games, or bright enough for tv cameras
I have seen a lot of teams but that Real Madrid were something else. I will never forget watching that team that night. I loved Celtic but RM were a class above
Eddie Millar was a bachelor well into his 30s soon after that game he married and they had a young baby born in 1963. Soon after the baby was born Eddie fell off a building under construction and was killed. As a 13 year old it was quite a shock for me
I will never forget Real Madrid ,it was one of the few times my dad took us into the jungle to watch a game, and I never got over loosing such a nice man as Eddie Millar

Chairbhoy

Jobo Baldie @ 10:02 pm,

*SENTINEL CELTS PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2022-23*

RESULTS FROM GAME #8 – CELTIC 0 REAL MADRID 3

What a first 55 minutes! But then came the other 35. However, as posted at half time last night by IniquitousIV “We might not win this, but at least we look as if we belong”.
My own take-away memory from last night was at around the 88th minute when we started singing the praises of Ange Postecoglu, over and over again. It seemed like the whole stadium was emphasising that, despite the defeat, we were totally behind Ange’s way of thinking and approaching games. A complete endorsement and acknowledgement of a fine manager.

I also confess that, as ole Kate Bush once sang, I made a deal with God late in the first half when, I think, Vinicius Jr was bearing in on goal. “Save it, Joe, and you get one of my 3 votes” I quickly prayed. And he did. Joe Hart also looked to be the one most angry and animated at the goals we lost which was good to see. So, after only conceding 2 all season, we lose 3 goals in one half of football and I give our goalie a vote! But a promise is a promise….
So, that’s now 8 games played, 7 games won, 1 game lost. 29 goals scored and only 5 conceded.

And so to the voting. Thanks to the 72 who sent in their opinions. 2 players dominated the voting leaving a very interesting range of opinions for that difficult 3rd choice. The total votes cast for each player (with my own choices asterisked) are as follows –

Hart*: 4
Juranovic: 22
Carter-Vickers: 11
Jenz: 9
Taylor: 8
McGregor*: 65
Hatate*: 47
O’Riley: 18
Abada: 2
Giakoumakis: 26
Jota: 2

Maeda: 0
Kyogo: 0
Turnbull: 0
Mooy: 1
Haksabanovic: 1

So, the top 5 players receiving POINTS for the game against Real Madrid are –
McGregor – 5 pts
Hatate – 4 pts
Giakoumakis – 3 pts
Juranovic – 2 pts
O’Riley – 1 pt

And the overall standings after 8 games played are –
20 points – Jota
11 points – Hatate and McGregor
10 points – Taylor
9 points – Abada and Jenz
8 points – Juranovic and O’Riley
7 points – Carter-Vickers
5 points – Kyogo and Ralston
4 points – Giakoumakis, Mooy and Welsh
3 points – Maeda
2 points – Turnbull
1 point – Hart

*PLEASE NOTE*
So, Mr and Mrs Baldie are going abroad on holiday from Sunday 11 September for 10 nights. But never fear, the competition will still continue as normal. But for the 3 games that’ll take place whilst I’m away (Livingston, Shakhtar Donetsk and St Mirren) my reminders to vote might be sparse or even non-existent. Perhaps more significantly, the results will almost certainly be delayed beyond the usual 10.15pm – possibly even until the following morning. I suppose this might depend on my Rioja and/or Cerveza intake and my ability to make sense of my ever growing control spreadsheet! Can’t be helped I’m afraid, and hopefully voting numbers stay high whilst I’m away! On the plus side, my results posts might well be just that – the total votes without my usual rambling introduction.

So, we move back to League duty with a Saturday 3pm home game against Livingston and perhaps it’ll be a chance to put a decent early gap between ourselves and 2nd place Aberdeen – well, you never know! Also, my feeling right now is that we might have a different range of players to consider for allocating our 3 votes, with Ange having one eye on Shakhtar. Hear from you all from around 4.50pm onwards….

Hail Hail!

Great stuff again Jobo, and great to read your first hand account you ghuys in the stadium did us proud again.

Like you I voted for Big Joe, maybe not his greatest game but he was that big match player we knew him to be, his experience and genuine upset at not getting anything from the game shows Ange has got an able lieutenant on the field, mirroring his level of ambition.

Matt, again got my vote as a young man whose qualities shined through, he really didn’t look outclassed in that company and who could have lived with Modric’s genius, he’s a smart lhad and will learn from the best.

CalMac did an awesome Captain’s job at the top level and certainly others deserved a vote, especially Reo but glad to see our Callum take POTM

All in all a really exciting game to watch, really getting tested at the highest level and being proud of the efforts of the Club, phenomenal.

Yet not only did we find the players who seem pretty close to oven ready, we seen a few stress fractures appear that haven’t been evident in domestic competition.

I’ll make a prediction, we will be better than that in the Santiago Bernabei.

In Ange and the bhoys we trust…

Hail Hail

Chairbhoy

Great lead again SeS, remember having a “chat” on CQN about the political shirt – think the fount of all knowledge GARCIA LORCA told us a lot about it, St STIVS, from “a” younger generation giving an insight also.

Keep up the great work Sentinels…

Hail Hail

Big Audio Dynamite

Good stuff again Saltires!
I wasn’t aware of the Crerand pen incident …was there ever a time those feckers didn’t cheat?
I think a lot of older bears would consider that their greatest team, eh?

Jobo Baldie

Good morning, friends. Thanks for the article SeS. And thanks for the repost, Chairbhoy.

Big Audio Dynamite

When professional football players decide they’re not mad for their manager (Or are pining for the old one), you get performances like last night. I’m not saying they are capable of better, but they are certainly capable of more effort! That’s how it looked to me.

So, has wee Giocanny lost the dressing room? He spoke about having to “Take it on the chin” and I immediately thought OH OH! 😊 Not that I take great pleasure in them losing in (You lying dasturd) but I do love a bit of karma

I’d already said we would win this title by 15pts, but after this week i may have to revise that. Happy daze!I

HH💚

The puffpuff puffers

CFC . Well said 👏 👌 👍

SeS

The Tic -thanks for sharing that story buddy – sad but evocative, and fine image of that floodlit halo over the ground in evening games … the colder air of autumn and the cigarette smoke somehow enhancing the effect. Magical stuff.

Chairbhoy – it would be great to hear more of that story – imagine the SFA trying that nowadays? the club set fire to the entire strip after just one game and big Billy thought he was rescuing John Yogi Hughes’ No 9 shirt from the pyre, but it was the upside down No 6 he rescued ..,thankfully, that one surviving shirt is back with it’s rightful owners.

BAD – aye entitled bar stewards .. maybe that was the end days of their Iron Curtain defence?

SeS

Jobo – good work and see Haksabanovic got a mention – thought he looked very, very comfortable in that role and not phased one bit by his opponents. Can’t wait to see more of him .. very soon!

Bawheid

SES. I read that, that Celtic shirt with the shamrock badge was rescued by someone (Billy Price)? and donated to a convent, later, Billy McNeill autographed it and it sold at Great Western auction house in 2020. As far as I’m aware there was two sets of that shamrock badged Celtic shirt, one home shirt and one away shirt like the one above, the home shirt had the reverse colouring.

Stevie Chalmers Celtic ‘away’ shirt, exactly the same as the one above also sold at auction at McTears in 2020, Stevie’s shirt was numbered No7, not his usual No 9. Celtic players were known to wear different numbered shirts depending on the position that they played.

Just a thought…has JNP been on in the last couple of days?

SeS

Bawheid – thanks, that’s really helpful. Did they only put numbers on change strips – but not the ‘hoops’ ?

SeS

McCaff – good question buddy – not seen him in since his last update. Hope all well JNP? – if you have time give us a wee ping!

JimmynotPaul

McCaff/SES.
Good timing as on my break, so just looked in.
Yes, I’m ok folks. Thanks for being kind enough to ask.
McCaff.
No luck, still here to haunt you buddy.😁😁
SES.
Thanks for outstanding article, as ever.
Sore one in 62, missed pen and then they steal it, near the end, especially at a time, where they beat us quite often.
If you ask McCaff, he might recall the match, in question. He he.

Bawheid

SES. As far as I know, players wore the numbers on their shirts depending on what position they played. That was done prior to ‘fixed’ squad numbers was introduced.

Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!! 🤫🤣🤣🤣

Chairbhoy

SeS @ 9:34 am,

Yes, think you will need older and wiser heid to give you the proper lowdown but I got into the conversation as I remember seeing photos of the kit and loving it as a child.

Now, I always thought it was Celtic reserve and mainly third team kit, Celtic ran three “senior” teams at that time.

The interesting thing on that top is not it’s uniqueness per-se, the kit I remembered had a green collar and the team often wore green shorts.

My understanding is that a few of the tops with the green collar remain and it’s the white collar that makes this top unique.

In fact, we couldn’t find a photo with the team wearing the “white” collar.

Obviously fairly vague from me and would love to be put right – GARCIA LORCA or his brother GORDON have some incredible knowledge and if anybody knows them and can ask the question then maybe we get an answer.

But I was pleasantly surprised to know the first team had indeed used it as a “change” kit.

Hail Hail

Jobo Baldie

News channels suggesting that The Quèen might not have too long left.
Does one think that Saturdays game might be in doubt? I remember football was cancelled following Princess Diana’s death.

St tams

Jobo
Hope not.

bada bing1

Senior members of the Royal Family on way to Balmoral…….

Mike in Toronto

St. Tams

The Queen may be dying ….I think there are much more important things to think about than whether Celtic’s game is postponed.

Mike in Toronto

,,,,like, will Meghan and Harry visit her? And, if they do, will they be turned away? Will their private security force have to wait outside?

The World wants to know.

🙂

bada bing1
Mike in Toronto

That Meghan is ambitious … think she genuinely thought that when she married Harry, she could somehow engineer his ascension to the Throne (and herself to Queen). But when the Family so unreasonably rebuffed her fabulous ideas, she decided that President Meghan sounded good, so she headed back to America.

However, now that that idea seeems to have stalled, she may be reconsidering …if I was Charles, and William, I’d be sleeping with one eye open ….

Craig76

Volunteer 53 has not been on lately, hope the authorities haven’t nabbed him 😬 🚔

bada bing1

Huw Edwards, black tie on,BBC News…..

16 roads

“It’s a stadium I love coming to. On Matchday 1 of the Champions League, it’s been a fantastic atmosphere, always positive and getting behind their team. They applauded us as well. That’s the beauty of football. It’s a pleasure to have played here.”

Thibaut Courtois.

Frodshambhoy

Was meant to be at Manchester airport now heading to Tenerife. My mum fell in her care home late last night and it turns out she broke her hip. She’s in hospital waiting a hip replacement.
Heading up to Glasgow tomorrow for a few days. Came up with a master plan to sneak away for Livi game but see it’s sold out. I also looked for tickets v Hearts in August and that was sold out.

Getting harder to be a non season ticket holder fan.
At least Ange is spending the money wisely.

bada bing1

BBC 1 schedule cleared,News channel now

Big Audio Dynamite

Frodshambhoy, all the best buddy, hope your mum is well again soon

bada bing1

All games will be off this weekend

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Surely they havent asked the Queen to take one for the team so they can get the game put off and give themselves a chance to regroup

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Hope 53 Has a tight alibi

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

All jokeing apart the Queen at the end of the day is a mum,grandmum and great grandmum and to her immediate family this is a sad and worrying time. We need to remember how we all felt when we have went thru similar times

Is it too much of a coincidence that Puff is in London and there’s concern for Maj’s wellbeing?
#AskingForAFriendCSC
😁😁😁

SFTB

If the Queen dies soon, we will probably see our game v Livi postponed but there is an upside……

There will be another Coronation Cup we can win

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

We should put the Coronation cup up for play but don’t invite the huns

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Puff Puff in London?? How come I can’t get the Clash London’s Burning out of my head now

The puffpuff puffers

London/ Paris/ New York ✨️ just hinging aroon
drinking 🍸 beer 🍺 and meeting wumin

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

As long as you are no killing wumin

The Fenian Whaler

Elizabeth Saxe Coburg is unwell, sad for her family undoubtedly, me I am more concerned about this

Celtic boss Ange Postecoglou installed as bookies favourite to replace Graham Potter as next Brighton manager

Don’t shoot the messenger CSC

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Where is my gun

JimmynotPaul

TFW 3.50
I don’t know your source, it’s not accurate.
Here is the up to the minute odds from Skybet.

Kjetil Knutsen
7/2
Steve Cooper
4/1
Nathan Jones
8/1
Ange Postecoglou
12/1
Brendan Rodgers
12/1
Scott Parker
12/1
Sean Dyche
12/1
Bruno Saltor
14/1
Russell Martin
14/1
Karel Geraerts
16/1

The Fenian Whaler

JimmynotPaul

News now Celtic, a number of articles from the MSM claiming he is / was the front runner. How quickly do odds change?

@ 11.15 Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou the current 11/2 favourite.
@15.15 Celtic boss Ange Postecoglou installed as bookies favourite to replace Graham Potter as next Brighton manager

No idea about betting CSC

Craig76

TFW
Ange is going to be linked with a number of low ranked EPL jobs and the press up hear will delight in mentioning it to him and he will slap them down each time, Ange is going nowhere soon in my opinion

The Fenian Whaler

Craig76

I agree but, and there is always a but, managing in the EPL is a massive attraction

JimmynotPaul

TFW.
Ange has never been favourite, not with Skybet, that I’m aware of.
New now Celtic, well known click bait site, makes up stuff, for clicks.

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