28th September…if you know your history

120 years ago … 1902 and on this day (Sunday) Celts are in the midst of a tough schedule of 3 matches in 6 days.

The first of the 3 games game was on Wednesday, with the Final of the Ibrox Disaster Benefit Fund, played against Morton. There had been a number of benefit matches played to raise funds for the bereaved families of the 25 souls who tragically fell to their death at the Scotland v England Home International match on 5th April, 1902. Funds were also raised towards compensation for the hundreds of injured fans. That might explain why only 2000 fans turned up to watch the game.

There are no match details other than teams and scorers. (Help?)

1902-09-24: Celtic 4-2 Morton, Ibrox Disaster Benefit Fund Tournament

Celtic:
Andrew McPherson, Hugh Watson, Donald MacLeod, James Moir, Willie Loney, William Orr, Jimmy Quinn, Peter Somers, Johnny Campbell, Thomas McDermott & Davie Hamilton
Scorers:Willie Loney 2, Davie Hamilton & Thomas McDermott

Morton:
Bryce, Ritchie, Orr, Campbell, McNeill, Craik, Roberts, Logan, Stewart, McInnes & Russell
Scorers:McInnes 2

Referee: N/A
Attendance: 2000

The next game up on Saturday is a league tie at Paradise in front of 15,000 against Third Lanark, where the Celtic Half-Back Line was “invincible”. A 22nd minute goal by Campbell was enough to secure the 2 points for Celts.

1902-09-27: Celtic 1-0 Third Lanark, League Division 1

Celtic:
McPherson, Watson, MacLeod; Moir, Loney and Orr; Crawford, Somers, Campbell, McDermott and Hamilton
Scorers:Campbell 22

Third Lanark:
Raeside, Barr and Thomson; Cross, Neilson and McIntosh; Johnstone, Graham, Prior, Wilson and Wardrop

Referee: Mr Murray, Stenhousemuir
Attendance: 15,000

The Traditional Monday September Bank Holiday* sees the team heading East to play Hearts at Tynecastle on league business. The mighty Quinn and ever-reliable Campbell, had secured a 2 goal lead by Half-time. The travelling Celtic fans were in a ‘Happy Holiday’ mood, and when Thomson scored a consolation goal for Hearts just after the hour, it wasn’t going to be enough to dampen Celtic celebrations.

1902-09-15: Heart of Midlothian 1-2 Celtic, League Division 1

Celtic:
McPherson, Watson and MacLeod; Moir, Loney and Orr; Quinn, Somers, Campbell, McDermott and Hamilton
Scorers: Quinn 20, Campbell 40

Hearts:
McWattie, Baird and Gunzoen; Key, Buick and Hogg: Porteous, Walker, Thomson, Hunter and Williamson
Scorers: Thomson 65

Referee: Mr T Robertson, Queen’s Park
Attendance: 8,000

Jimmy ‘Mighty’ Quinn goal-scorer (a later photograph wearing hoops)

In other news:

Emile Zola, French writer and critic (J’accuse), dies at 62

The most famous French writer of his day died at 62 in curious circumstances. Émile Zola and his wife Alexandrine returned to their house in the rue de Bruxelles in Paris on 28 September from a spell in the country. It was wet and cold, and a smokeless coal fire was lit in their bedroom for the night. They slept with the window shut and Zola locked the door, as he always did. Many death threats had been made against him in the last few years. Without realising what was happening, the two of them were slowly overcome by carbon monoxide fumes. At three in the morning they were both awake, feeling sick, but Zola stopped Alexandrine rousing the servants for what he thought was merely an attack of indigestion. It was a fatal decision and later she was unable to move when he got out of bed, perhaps to open the window, and fell to the floor.

Emile Zola in 1902

*Did You Know? – Public Holidays in Scotland Background
In most countries, there are statutory holidays which are recognised by most of the population – Independence Day, Bastille Day, Labour Day etc. But the dates of public holidays in Scotland are not as easy as that!

Statutory Bank Holidays
There are Acts of Parliament which set out the dates of “Bank Holidays”. These were first introduced in 1871 to lay down the days on which banks would be closed and so allow the payment of cheques and bills of exchange to be postponed by one day on these designated dates. Prior to the legislation, the dates had been at haphazard times in different parts of the country. When the Victorian Members of Parliament were debating the Act, they were most concerned that other organisations and the general public should not also regard these days as “holidays”. Nevertheless, in England and Wales, these days did indeed become recognised as public holidays, soon after the “Bank Holidays Act” was passed – and are still called “Bank Holidays” as a result.

Local Holidays in Scotland
Not so in Scotland, however, where the old system of “Local Holidays” was perpetuated. The dates for these were (and still are) decided by local Chambers of Commerce which decide when they are going to take the annual “quota” of four days – and they are on all sorts of dates throughout the year. Indeed, the dates were often decided to ensure that shops in nearby towns were closed on different days. To this day, many Glaswegians travel to Edinburgh on a Glasgow Local Holiday – and vice-versa. Of course, the “Local Holidays” in a particular town may by chance coincide with a “Bank Holiday” – Glasgow usually has a local holiday on the last Monday in May which is also a Bank Holiday – but Edinburgh has a Monday holiday roughly in the middle of May instead.

Source: http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/blknow_holidays.htm

General stuff:

935 Saint Wenceslas is murdered by his brother, Boleslaus I of Bohemia

1066 William the Conqueror then Duke of Normandy, invades England landing at Pevensey Bay, Sussex

1887 Yellow River or Huáng Hé floods in China, killing between 900,000 and 2 million people, one of the deadliest natural disasters in history

1963 “New Phil Silvers Show” debuts on CBS-TV

Phil ‘Sgt. Bilko’ B. 1912 Brooklyn NYC D. 1985 (Age 73)

1976 “Songs in the Key of Life” 18th studio album by Stevie Wonder, is released (Billboard Song of the Year 1977)

Note: The excellent Celtic Wiki site is the font of all knowledge on things Celtic. Most of the Celtic stuffabove is from that site. The guys who set it up and painstakingly keep it updated, deserve no end of credit, praise and thanks. A treasure trove for Celtic fans young and old – and new- and free to view.

Respect Bhoys !

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/

Guest article by SeS

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Chairbhoy

Great stuff again SeS, always illuminating…

As BMCUWPS was saying t’uther day, it’s strange what you think you know and you don’t.

The first Ibrox disater being a Home International was news to me, tragic.

Songs in the key of life was a seminal album in my youth, my pal and I played it to death when it first came out.

It was interesting, my big sister, who has a very catholic taste in music and certainly had a few motown records back in the day, was compiling her itunes library some years back, not being a big Stevie fan and knowing I had been, she asked what album she needed to include from the great man.

Of course I said SITKOL, anyways next time we met up she said she’d gone for another album – SITKOL was too heavy!?

Strange really as I hadn’t thought of it in those terms but thinking about it, it certainly was, could be the reason I have rarely listened to it since the seventies – masterpiece though it undoubtedly is.

Great result for Scotland yesterday, Steve Clarke certainly knows what he’s doing when playing for a draw, as his time with Kilmarnock proved, however it don’t half give you the heebie-jeebies.

Scotland really have a good squad and great team ethic, the great substitutions he made throughout these last three games prove not only the depth of the squad but also as Ange shows, the importance of all squad members being part of the “first team” and knowing in great detail their “role”.

Steve Clarke came into this International “break” with sixteen injuries, including his captain, able deputies abound. Subs coming on an owning their positions was the highlight of the campaign for me. Henry and Hickey being prime examples.

It also shows the importance for us of a performing “B” side, these Celtic youngsters took a time to develop yet most had identified their potential. We’ve lost far too many young players who have gone on to be excellent footballers and are still loosing some potentially good kids.

We need a top young progressive manager working under Ange as our B team head coach and these players need to be giving quality game time and first class development.

The myth that Scotland can no longer produce footballers has been busted.

Now, POTM, is a toughy, well outside Calmac who was supreme, the usual suspects not first in the queue last night.

Porteus certainly deserves a mention in despatches a debut of fire and he was quality, efficient and cool in equal measure, yet Henry was awesome last night and certainly in for a shout for standout over the three matches and of course our mhan Craig keeping the clean sheet, another epic performance, so he gets the nod.

Pot 2 for the Euro qualifiers, play off place guaranteed and promotion to the A Division – not too sloppy Scotland – well done all involved.

Have A Great Day Celts

Hail Hail

Cosy Corner Bhoy

I did indeed forget about that big shite Jack, but unlike Hun supporters, I don’t regard young Patterson as one. The old brain sometimes fails to fully engage when asked to do so and seems to be occurring more often😁

16 roads

Quality content SeS & always an education.

Much obliged.

HH. 🍀

SeS

Chairbhoy

Aye, a fantastic sequence of games and agree on your points about the results and team spirit around Stevie Clarke and the development process at Paradise – far too many not being given a fair chance to move into the first team.

SITKOL – fantastic memories on the melodies by the genius that is Stevie Wonder. I don’t have a copy now and rely on Deezer. Kept 50 vinyl LP’s when decided it was time to go digital …really couldn’t part with some … my copy of Innervisions is an original, but showing it’s age and probably unplayable now ( a bit like Ryan Jack …. not in a good way). Need to dig it out sometime soon. Kept all the singles tho’ and they get a regular spin on an old dansette at our wee parties. Some one suggested getting a Wurlitzer for those ocassions … maybe if I win the lottery…

CCB – never noticed he was playing either … I’m not too sure he really exists other in the minds of dafties at Poundland … don’t beat yersel’ up

SeS

16 Roads – thanks buddy and Hail Hail

Space didn’t allow me to mention that the International game at Ibrox was restarted and ended a 1-1 draw. The authorities were worried there would be serious crowd disorder if game not completed. Both teams filed protests and the game was replayed at Aston Villa’s ground another draw which was enough to secure the ‘Home’ title for Scotland that year. All the proceeds from the second game went to the disaster fund.

The builder of the stand was arrested on allegations of using inferior wood. He was also questioned about using wood when steel was available but exonerated as there was only a ten year lease on the stadium at that time and steel would have been easier to work with in construction. He was never charged. There were no further arrests.

The builder and architect went on to design many of the stadia in Scotland and England.

One of the outcomes of the disaster, meant that all terracing had to be built on earthen mounds – it took Rangers many years to complete those changes.

Imagine any game continuing these days, in similar circumstances, with deaths and hundreds injured?

16 roads

Difficult to believe the DD fella has been gone a year.

One in a million.

Always got him a wee bit of green when he was over in Ireland.

Remember before a trip,he would be a wee bit agitated,on the old blog about bringing his own over on the plane – would say to him don’t be bringing anything over here – it’s already there for ye ffs, now stop worrying.

And that would be him calm.

Even Dublin when he was over with his young lhad – whatever happened a didn’t meet up with him until away later on at the shindig – he was over the moon to finally get a wee reefer – told ye a wouldn’t let ya down!!

The gig was miles outside Dublin city centre, taxis were expensive to say the least – Garry and his son commandeered a taxi and dropped me back into town – he wouldn’t take a penny.

Time he got his picture taken with Bik in the Rock Bar – happy as Larry he was.

Garry had very strong faith as well all know,he loved St.Mary’s church in Belfast city centre – some Polish connection I think? Petec and him went to mass there if my memory is correct.

Anyway wee candle lit right now for ye DD.

God bless ye mo chara. 🍀

16 roads

SeS – Madness to say the least.

Honestly haven’t heard of the tragedy until I read this morning’s article.

God help the poor victims anyway.

Over & out.

HH. 🍀

16 roads

Thinking now before a go – my memory isn’t the best.

Sitting in the house one day, watching Sky Sports news – something was happening at Celtic Park, can’t remember what exactly,new signing maybe?

Next minute the boul Garry appeared on the TV cameras outside the stadium & yer man from Sky starts interviewing him!!

Any help verifying this actually did happen please,or I could have just imagined it.

Mental.

Laters.

HH. 🍀

Prestonpans bhoys

SeS

That was a good read, local holidays, jings don’t get me started on that. I would start a major upgrade on the Edinburgh September weekend (Friday) only to get Glesga, Dundee and Aberdeen complaining that they were working😵😱

Anyways…..wonder what Sky Tv’s reaction will be on finding out that one club out of 42 didn’t vote for it. Perhaps they will rethink their love affair with it that new entity😕

St tams

SeS
Very informative article as always.
Songs in the key of life.was a fantastic album. I actually think I might still have it on vinyl, somewhere .
The wife likes to hide all my vinyl away 😁

Big Audio Dynamite

Thanks to you, SES, seem to learn at least one thing every wednesday.

Thought Scotland worked their socks off last night and got what they deserved.
Usually have zero interest in International football, but last night’s game was a good 0-0 to watch.
Hat’s off to Clark, he seems to have them really playing for him.
One who caught the eye last night was Porteus. Can imagine Hibs will want a big chunk of money for him now.
To be honest, I’m more interested in our own players getting through these games uninjured.
If we beat Murderball with a last minute deflected goal, I’ll be over the moon.
St Mirren seems a long time ago …can’t wait to see the Hoops again!

SeS

PB -aye don’t get me started on Public Hols … trad rools etc… drive ye mad.

ST Tams ..hiding records … grounds for … 🤣

BAD – yeah 7 points from 9 is going to get players noticed. Good to get past Mothers’ and face Leipzig with a full squad … hopefully

Angel Gabriel

SeS. Thanks again. Really appreciate your weekly input.

16 Roads
Nice and appropriate tribute to Garry.

He was down in Ayr around 14 months ago, I met him for a few scoops on a Monday night. He asked about the local chapel that was renamed as a Cathedral.
His digs were on a route home that would take him past the Cathedral, so he opted to walk on a nice night, rather than get a taxi.
My last words to him was explaining his route .
Still difficult to comprehend that he’s gone.
He’s sadly missed. HH

jimthetim53

Cheers SeS.
I used to love watching Sgt. Bilko when I was a kid! In 1971? I bumped into Phil Silvers in Edinburgh and got his autograph. He told me he was starring in A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum. 🙂

SeS

JTT53 – never ceases to amaze me the recall memories of folk on here … amazing thanks for sharing

Angel Gabriel – cheers buddy – nice thoughts of Garry today … was the Cathedral St Margaret’s in Ayr?

The Leopard’s Rimshot

RIP, Garry.

YNWA 🍀🇮🇪

big packy

cant believe its a year since garrys passing, remember watching his requiem mass on you tube, seems like only a few months ago RIP garry postecoglou 🙏

big packy

SALTIRES, brilliant reading as usual, thanks for putting a photo of a great croybhoy on, jimmy quinn ,my dad would be pleased👍

jimthetim53

Packy, yes I watched Garry’s funeral Mass too. It was very sad, it was hard to believe that was Garry lying there, a character who was so full of life!

big packy

JIM yes he lived and breathed celtic 👍

Leftclicktic

Garry bhoy
Gone but never forgotten.
Thoughts with Ryan and the Duncan clan today.

Mahe

Garry Duncan, one year gone but not forgotten.
RIP my friend

Frodshambhoy

SeS thanks again. You always bring interesting stuff to light.
If you don’t mind me saying you forgot to mention that Brigette Bardot (and me) were born on 28 September. Can understand you missing me out but BB!

I didn’t take it on board last year that Garry passed on my birthday. Don’t know why I didn’t make the connection. RIP Garry. Much missed 🙏

jimthetim53

Happy Birthday Frodshambhoy! 🙂

big packy

HAPPY HOOPY BIRTHDAY frodshambhoy, are you in the bears paw celebrating🤩

Bigrailroadblues

Good afternoon all from Shawlands. Me n Garry used to time the pouring of the Guinness at the Stanley Bar with his “smoke” breaks. He called me a crazy old bastard. Think it was a compliment. 🤔

Bigrailroadblues

And happy birthday to Frodshambhoy anaw.👍

big packy

BRRB hope your not frequenting any drinking establishments in shawlands 🤩

Sol Kitts

Happy birthday to Frodshambhoy 🍺🍺🥃🥃🎂

Leggy

Frodshambhoy,

Happy Hoopy Birthday 👍👍

Hope you have a great day and drink lots 🍺🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃🥃

HH 🍀🍀

Sol Kitts

Just reading back through this morning’s comments. When I fist saw SITKOL I wondered what true story Big Packy was telling about me, then I read it properly. D’oh.😎😎

Frodshambhoy

Thanks guys. BP I’m in Liverpool overnight so having a few beers to celebrate or commiserate.
Card from my son and his wife said:
Happy Birthday
In Dog Years
Your Dead.

No need for honesty is there.

Bigrailroadblues

BP 4.02.
A man needs a hobby. 😂

big packy

SOL you want a true story ,where is that half crown you borrowed off me at ayr races in 1971🤩

big packy

BRRB🤩

Leftclicktic

Happy hooooooopy birthday to Frodshambhoy.

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
BMCUWP gave me a sure thing in the 7th race at Ayr, so I put your half crown on it. Horse was.called Lucky 7, odds were 7-1. It came in 7th.
I’ll post it back to you later. Will 2 florins and a tanner be acceptable?🐴😎

big packy

SOL seen as its you, yes🤩

Frodshambhoy

BRRB don’t bring your hobby to Liverpool.
Inflation is rife. First pint and glass of wine at 2.05 was £11.15. Latest purchase 5 minutes ago was £14.20.
Bank of England intervention today hasn’t worked 😡😡

Danny Mac23

SeS

Thank you for a fantastic read.Your weekly historical hoop memories are intriguing and always enlightening.

Frodshambhoy, Happy birthday sounds like an expensive one.

Chairbhoy

Porteous always looked a player to me but had those mad rush of blood to the head tackles that maybe a bit of maturity has kicked in.Hickey looks composed and accomplished which I think a period in Serie A has instilled some confidence in him.They could have good careers ahead of them and all in all the Scottish campaign has not been too shabby.

big packy

frodshambhoy make your way up to south liverpool, aigburth/garston ,where wee joan is from ,you will pay proper prices there,,another true story🤩

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

SALTIRES

Another terrific article today,quite incredible the research you do for them. Well done,that man!

Prestonpans bhoys

Hoopy happy birthday to Frodshambhoy.👍🍺🍹

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

Re Phil Sivers,my Dad got me into Bilko. When they showed them again on BBC2 from 730pm on a Friday night,I was living in Prestwick. 1988/89.

My mates and I would usually start the evening at around 7pm. I told them during the week that I wasn’t out on Friday till about 815,Bilko is on!

God,they ripped me to pieces! Until one week,they all decided to stay in and watch it-and as luck would have it,it was IMO the bestt to episode of the lot.

Bilko’s Lucky Day.

Yep,they were hooked!

I’ve got the entire collection of them on DVD,and they get brought out often for an airing. Especially during lockdown.

big packy

BOBBY never heard of sgt bilko ,JIM used to tell me about him, as im a lot younger🤩🤩

Frodshambhoy

Happy Days £7.70 wine and a pint 😁😁😁

Happy Days Sgt Bilko

bilk
verb
obtain or withhold money from (someone) unfairly or by deceit; cheat or defraud.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

Also,I still have a good few Stevie Wonder albums,including Songs In The Key Of Life,from his golden period in the 70s. All but Innervisions are on vinyl.

Dunno what happened to that one,but a lot of my vinyl has been lost along the way. Occupational hazard of age,I suppose.

My last purchase of his was Hotter Than July. Then he released I Just Called To Say I Love You. Say no more…

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

HAPPY HOOOOOOPY BIRTHDAY to

FRODSHAMBHOY!!!!!!!!

Chuck a couple of quid on the lottery tonight,mate-you might get enough for a round or two!

St tams

I never had the pleasure of meeting Garry.
I’m sure hat I really missed out. Taken too soon.

Frodshambhoy , happy birthday
 

big packy

frodshambhoy get up to penny lane and see the barbers shop although its not there🤩seriously, around penny lane towards garston there is lots of lovely pubs and restaraunts,👍