Talking points

It was indeed good to start sober(ing) October with a win but jeez, it was no stroll in the park at all.
For starters I felt Ange got the team selection wrong.
At the back, I understand picking Juranovich over Ralston given he didn’t actually play midweek whereas Ralston did grace the field, but with JJ having travelled more perhaps Tony would have been the wiser choice at right back.
Likewise at left back, young Master Taylor has notched up quite the minutes already this season, and with fresh young Bernabei available, and the tie being at home, maybe the young Argentinian would have been the best option.
I cringed at the midfielders selected to begin,,we have watched that same trio labour before and their combined performance has been patchy.
We shall learn nothing more from playing them time and time again, they can blow hot and cold,, best domestic opponents yes but Calmac isn’t a great defensive midfielder who had just played midweek, and with other options on the bench again could have been overlooked for what should have been a straightforward victory.
Reo had just flown around the globe, and should have been another candidate for rest,,,it’s a mark of his quality he pulled out a good performance despite his travels.
Matt was an automatic pick given he’s fresh and in good form.
Maeda did look jaded in these eyes and shouldn’t have started in my book, while Jota was playing on his least effective side, perhaps contributing to his poor game.
The younger Abada was the obvious choice for the fixture, or Hacksabanovic. Or both.
Given the break, given the Internationals. I was really hoping for a new look side similar to what we witnessed at Ross County, where the changes enhanced the teams performance.
It never happened. The usual eleven were fielded.
I never felt we would lose the game, but the draw was clearly a possibility. It was too close for comfort.
Ange can rightly state three points, and he’s a good manager, but I wish he would rotate more often.
Saturday was always the day for it, and he shied away, despite the fact we tend to look better when things are switched up.
I worry about his reliance on core players sometimes to the team’s detriment, however he did use all five available substitutes, which reassures me he himself wanted something different out there.
Now of course he must switch it up as our Captain shall miss league games.
Inwardly I’m delighted, his hand has been forced which offers opportunity elsewhere plus Calmac could do with a wee rest now and again.
For me, it’s not a red card. Stephen Welsh would have tackled that player if he had broken through, therefore it shouldn’t be award a red as it’s not a clear cut goal scoring opportunity.
Just another example of poor or bent officiating.
As for JJ, Ive never known a player to have a 60 seconds like that, post then goal, at the wrong end. Passes to the keeper should never ever be goalbound, it’s either side of the post just incase.
I speculate the Croat squad might have went out and celebrated midweek in closeby Austria, and I’ve read matchgoers say he had a shocking start to the game, but given he almost scored and the amount of positivity he had given in the past I shall not slaughter the young man.
He must focus though, and some believe that happens best from the bench. Then again, a midweek blinder puts it all behind him considering the three points were attained.
Decisions, decisions.
I’d give him a chance midweek if truth be told.
However a poor performance and Tony comes in.
There’s other major talking points from Saturday.
1,,,The Welsh/Jenz combo
2,,,Our striker conundrum.
On number one, I’m starting to think our fourth choice defender (Welsh) may be loaned or moved on in the next couple of windows, traded in for a taller more athletic specimen.
Certainly wouldn’t surprise me.
I think Ange likes his attitude and ball skills, but he’s the weak point that shall be targeted by larger, more physical players everywhere.
Sentimentality aside, I’m all for upgrading central defense.
Cut out any weak points if possible, even if that means a popular youth player gets the elbow.
Welshy has a few more games in the team before the injured return, and some good performances in Europe would really help, I doubt he’ll be moved on during the campaign so he can and should go out and ram these words down my throat.
And I hope he does. Sincerely.
However if defense is going to be tinkered with, his fourth choice slot looks the likely area of action.
It’s too early to judge Jenz, who I have pegged as second choice but Ange may see Starfelt as the holder.

The striker issue needs to be aired.
We play one striker at a time, and have two good ones who rotate.
One of them regularly travels immense distances, and can return jaded.
Upon return, should his partner be injured we are left underpar, as was the case.
There’s two issues at play here,,,
Most of our goals aren’t scored by our strikers.
And who would accept the third choice striker role?
On the former, given the outfield chips in with so many, we could in theory play a winger with an eye for goal through the middle, yet never do to find out if that option would prove successful.
I posit Saturday we could have tried that trick.
On the latter, who would the role suit?
Not a young striker who needs game time to hone those skills.
Nor an aging journeyman, the last thing he needs is Angeballs high press showing his years and tarnishing his name.
Most strikers currently starting games at a decent name club won’t fancy the odd game here and there? Ten a year maybe?
It’s a very awkward scenario, third choice striker that will very seldomly be called upon, but must suit Ange-ball.
Where I sit there’s two options.
Number One is purchase another good striker with the aim of the three of them punching it out, tell him he plays well he’s in the team, and let him try to outshine the current couple, a three way battle for one slot.
Our accountant may not be on board it should be pointed out, the wage bill is already high. Another quality striker is a big ask, but if there’s a man that can twist arms it’s Ange, if McCarthy wages got shifted that could help convince the pen pusher.
Number two is to get a target man, a JVOH type of player with instructions to collect then bring our pacey wingers into the game,,not so much finish the move himself whilst adding more height to the team increasing the headed threat.
This type of player should in theory be cheaper than another finished product who’s ready to rock, their height and physicality being the main prerequisites, but yet that doesn’t sound very Ange at all.
Some type of striker must arrive, I’ve never known the club to have only two options, but who or what is very very hard to envisage at this stage. This one is truly a mystery that needs solved, I hope it’s fun to watch and it should be educational.
On Saturday the famous Glasgow Celtic won and live to fight another day. I just hope they fight a bit better from now on.
And I’ve faith they will.
By Mahe

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October 3, 2022 3:18 am

Stupid phone won’t copy the POTY article from last night. Too long apparently, only copies bits and bobs.
Could some kind soul post it here please?

October 3, 2022 7:08 am

From previous page…

Good evening, friends and it’s good to be back!
Before covering yesterday’s game can I start with the overdue information about September’s Player Of The Month. We only had 4 fixtures during September (October is a little busier with 9, yes nine fixtures scheduled!). The Player Of The Month award is based purely on the TOTAL votes given to each player during that month’s games.
In 3rd place with a total of 108 is Joao Pedro Neves Filipe. Runner up for September with 112 votes is Calum McGregor. And the Player Of The Month for September 2022 with 136 votes is REO HATATE.

So, whilst it was exciting to be back in league action yesterday it turned out to be another fairly stuffy win. I thought we were in control of the game throughout but whilst it remained tight it always allowed Beaton the chance to influence the game. I lost count of the number of times we were awarded unnecessary free kicks as well as stopping us taking them quickly. However, 3 points in 3 points and therefore an acceptable start to October.
We have now played 11 competitive fixtures this season and have won 8 with 1 draws and 2 defeats. 32 goals scored and 9 conceded.

As for the voting, I do appreciate that games like this can make it a bit more difficult to be bothered identifying your 3 best players. However, a big thank you to the 61 folk who did vote. The total votes cast for each player (with my own choices asterisked) are as follows –

Hart: 0
Juranovic: 15
Jenz*: 18
Welsh: 4
Taylor: 11
McGregor*: 47
Hatate*: 55
O’Riley: 6
Maeda: 3
Kyogo: 12
Jota: 11

Abada: 2
Turnbull: 0
Haskabanovic: 0
Mooy: 1
Abildgaard: 0

And so, the top 5 players receiving POINTS for the game against Motherwell are –
Hatate – 5 pts
McGregor – 4 pts
Jenz – 3 pts
Juranovic – 2 pts
Kyogo – 1 pt

It is worth acknowledging that Reo Hatate has been voted as our Man Of The Match for 3 games in a row (Shakhtar, St Mirren and Motherwell). Just as Jota was for the first 3 games of this season (Aberdeen, Ross County and Kilmarnock).
There have been 5 other MOTM awards – Juranovic (Hearts), Kyogo (Dundee Utd), Ralston (Ross County), Abada (Sevco) and McGregor (Real Madrid).

And finally, we have a new leader in the overall standings. After 11 games played the points are as follows –
26 points – Hatate
24 points – Jota
19 points – McGregor
16 points – Jenz
15 points – Taylor
10 points – Carter-Vickers and Juranovic
9 points – Abada
8 points – O’Riley
6 points – Kyogo
5 points – Ralston
4 points – Giakoumakis, Mooy and Welsh
3 points – Maeda
2 points – Turnbull
1 point – Hart
0 points – Abildgaard, Bernabei, Forrest, Haksabanovic, McCarthy, Siegrist and Starfelt

Next up it’s our 3rd game in this season’s Champions League when we visit RB Leipzig on Wednesday with a 5.45pm kick off.

October 2, 2022 10:04 pm

October 3, 2022 7:28 am

Mahe… Jota started on the left, his best side! He put the ball in for the first goal – from the left. He wasn’t at his best on Saturday, I’ll give you that, but he was on his favoured side where he’s produced most of his good stuff for us.
And a definite red for me, Welsh only has time to tackle because he changed direction when Calmac tackled, if Tierney had been allowed to go unhindered he’d have got a shot away. Hopefully if an appeal is submitted they look at it from the camera angles that show Welsh nearer the play but he really had nae chance of getting it!

October 3, 2022 7:36 am

This week’s Lost in Music show, for your perusal.
Play list

October 3, 2022 7:41 am

This is becoming a ( bad ) habit, but I have to agree with McCaff, again!!
A red card all day for me.
Joe Hart’s positioning, means it’s a clear goal scoring opportunity for me.
The Well player just had to chip the ball from where he is, Welsh nowhere near close enough to prevent that.
My gripe is the lack of consistency with refs.
Only a few weeks ago, that Sands wasnt sent off at Ibrox, for similar,when he was on a yellow!!
Joe Hart not given a foul, for being barged.
Cheating Beaton was the ref who allowed Sevco player to barge Albion Rovers goalie, to give Sevco controversial late equaliser.

October 3, 2022 7:42 am

Sending love, to you and all you loved ones, especially Shay.

October 3, 2022 7:44 am

Some crackers again this week, JNP. Cheers! I love Leonard’s version of Dance Me To The End Of Love. And finishing with Metal Guru, a brilliant tune taking me back nearly 50 years to my auntie’s bedroom in Gleddoch Rd, Penilee reading the music press and listening to T-Rex and Bowie!!!

October 3, 2022 7:45 am

You need to stop this, JNP, people are gonna talk about us, all this pleasant agreeing and posting playlists for me! 😍😍😍

big packy
October 3, 2022 7:49 am

happy hoopy birthday to my mate jim thetim53 and also my wife joan ,have a great day👍 🍻🥧

October 3, 2022 7:53 am

Happy Birthday to Wee Joan from me, the missus, the weans and the dug. Love and hugs sent. Make sure you spoil her, Big Jim Packy!
And if it’s a true story, and I’m no sure it is, Happy Birthday to Jim The Tim, too from me and all the staff at Wullie Low’s PRW!! 😂😂

October 3, 2022 7:53 am

Need to run, catch up later. Have a good day all!

October 3, 2022 7:54 am

happy hoopy birthday to my mate jim thetim53 and also my wife joan

October 3, 2022 7:54 am

Morning all,


Heart warming post last night.

Love and best wishes to you and your family and a wee special hug for Shay 💚

Happy Birthday to all who have birthdays today 👍

October 3, 2022 7:55 am

Big Jim Packy…looks like one of your swinger mates from 4 in a Bed is posting today!! 😱😁

October 3, 2022 7:57 am

Happy birthday jim thetim53 and wee joan.
I’m sure BigPacky has something special organised for wee Joan and has sent a very generous gift to his mate Jim.

big packy
October 3, 2022 8:14 am


October 3, 2022 9:14 am

Good morning all from McKinnons Bar. Lovely roll and skwerr in here.

A thing of beauty
October 3, 2022 9:32 am

Mahe… Jota started on the left, his best side! He put the ball in for the first goal – from the left. He wasn’t at his best on Saturday, I’ll give you that, but he was on his favoured side where he’s produced most of his good stuff for us.
And a definite red for me, Welsh only has time to tackle because he changed direction when Calmac tackled, if Tierney had been allowed to go unhindered he’d have got a shot away. Hopefully if an appeal is submitted they look at it from the camera angles that show Welsh nearer the play but he really had nae chance of getting it!
Agree with McCaff. Sorry Mahe but that report on the game is not the game that I watched. As for your gripe about midfield. Against st Mirren, as a whole the support said the midfield was the wrong picks so Ange reverted to his favoured three. First point. Hatate was not jetting half way round the world. Japan played their games in Germany in the international break I think. Secondly, Turnbull came on to replace O’Riley and utterly stunk the place out. Now O’Riley was anonymous but Turnbull in trying to be anonymous kept drawing attention to how badly he was playing.
I actually do agree with you that we have a problem up front but it’s not necessarily a striker problem. It’s a problem with the set up and the fact that we have stopped pressing teams the way we were. That applies to any front three that’s been picked recently. I include Maeda in that. If we have tinkered how we play so we are not pressing as aggressively as we did then there’s a seat for Maeda next to me because CCB would offer more in a football sense than Maeda does.
I said it yesterday but people were too busy talking about white puddings. (BTW happy birthday Joan) Something is not quite right with how we are playing. I think Ange may think we have too many games in a short space of time leading up to the World Cup and he has got the handbrake on. It’s that or we’re being found out.
Hope your great nephew is on the mend soon. It’s lovely you shared it with the blog and I’m sure the thoughts and prayers of everyone on here will be behind the wee guy.

Jobo Baldie
October 3, 2022 9:44 am

Good morning, friends.
I’m sorry to say that I too politely disagree with most of this mornings lead article. When the team was announced at 1.45 on Saturday I smiled “strongest team from those available”. We had lost our last game, probably by not playing our strongest 11 although for that game I did think it was time to rest a few. I think we were more comfortable on Saturday than the scoreline suggests and though not at our best there were several flashes of fine play. Don’t panic bhoys and girls, the Celtic Rollercoaster is always an exciting ride!

October 3, 2022 9:47 am


Three points in the bag but didn’t see enough of the game to comment or vote ( sorry Jobo) . Will stick to my self-imposed rule of not mentioning individual Celts in a negative way during the playing season.

Two things stick out in general. We knew we had signed a group of players required to travel across continents.So when we put this squad together that should be factored in to the plan. The other obvious thing is he collective lack of ohysicality and strength. Some games are more of a battle than a fitba match. That needs factored in to squad planning.

Talking of physicality and strength. . GFTB has a wee lad in his clan, seen off three massive operations and still going strong. A future Lion in the making in Shay methinks, and his big brother Finn can stand beside him in our Central defence, or midfield, or attack, and wear both Hoops and Away strips as the occasion requires.

Hoopy Birthday everyone with Birthdays today .. and that’s a true story 🥁🎼

October 3, 2022 9:48 am


Saturday was a tough gig,that’s for sure. From the off,we struggled to get into gear,and just couldn’t find any fluency. Having said that,we had plenty of chances that,say,a year ago,would have given us a comfortable margin of victory.

Also,our failure to convert those chances gave Beaton the chance to do what he does. Cheatin’ bastert.

October 3, 2022 9:49 am


JIMTHETIM53 and Wee Joan!!!!!!!

A thing of beauty
October 3, 2022 10:39 am

Happy birthday pal. Hope you have a lovely day.

October 3, 2022 10:58 am

Just heading into work and had a wee read of the blog, many many thanks for the good wishes for the wee mhan it us very much appreciated

Mags should always be the hoops … he will learn that in time 🙂

Hope both JimTheTim53 & Joan enjoy their birthdays

Hopefully the next few days we see a Salah & Kyogo hattrick

Although would take a draw on Wednesday … keeps us in the hunt

Hail Hail 🍀

St tams
October 3, 2022 11:11 am

In our last 4 games our front line have been poor.
We do no convert enough of chances created.
On Saturday, Jota crossed for the first goal and done nothing else . O’Riley , other than header that led to goal was anonymous. We don’t have enough creative options in midfield and how Maeada can start before Abada is beyond me.
Something else that is worrying, is the lack of youth players on the bench. Surely we must have a centre half and centre forward that could be included.

Personally, I think we need another 2/3 additions in January.

That was a lovely story last night.
Love to wee Shay

October 3, 2022 11:12 am

Many thanks for the Birthday Wiskes folks. 🙂
Packy, Happy Birthday to Wee Joan! 🙂

October 3, 2022 11:25 am

Seems a wee bit of belief has gone out of team since Shaktar draw.
That and refs stepping up their game on behalf of their brethren has seen our fluidity and potency dwindle.
The steeliness CCV provides and to a lesser extent Starfelt against SPL boot boys is missing and a few of our players are hiding a little.
This is where a coach who is stubborn and inflexible can be an issue as he continues with same players.
For me Abada should be playing over Maeda as he brings smart movement and a goal threat.
Our new defensive mid Abildgard should have had more game time in preparation for Europe.
A young striker should at least have been on the bench to cover an area we are short in.
A few more minutes for our young Argentine full back also.
Our subs when change on field is needed have to be more specific and address what’s happening on park rather than our constant like for like.

Hatate was culpable in Calum sending off but McGregor exacerbated it by taking a poor angle by moving to inside and catching player rather than running straight back.
Said after watching Reals youth annihilate our youngsters that our body positioning and angles were very poor when receiving or defending the ball.
Our first team are lacking in that area also.

October 3, 2022 11:27 am

Happy Birthdays to those celebrating.

The spine of this team is weak. One CB injury, one jaded CF and an unbalanced midfield and it all becomes very pedestrian, very predictable and a wee bit vulnerable.

Three purchases required- commanding CB, creative mid and a third striker option.

The CB, mid positions will probably require two to leave to create space in the squad. CS and JMcC would be my candidates to go- probably high earners and need to watch FSR re % ratios.

The third striker option is a requirement.

October 3, 2022 11:33 am

Jimthetim53 and Wee Joan

October 3, 2022 11:34 am

Fan, LOL 🙂

October 3, 2022 12:03 pm

Hey Jim.
Happy Birthday, I hope you have a fab day.
Please tell Joan, to have a Happy Birthday too🎂🎂 and make sure you spoil her ( for once )

big packy
October 3, 2022 12:25 pm

JNP always do😎 FAN brilliant👍GFTB cheers for the birthday wishes for wee joan, love to wee shay👍

bada Bing 1
October 3, 2022 12:45 pm

Sky Sports say Chelsea close to buying Leipzig striker Knunku? Thought Window was closed,maybe for January?

October 3, 2022 12:48 pm

Happy birthday to Jtt53. And wee Joan. That poor wee wummin has a lot to put up with. 🤣🥳🎂🥃🍺

big packy
October 3, 2022 12:51 pm

BRRB ya scoundrel🤩🤩

Sol Kitts
October 3, 2022 12:55 pm

The offence Calmac was sent off for was Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity, not a clear cut opportunity. Welsh could not have got there in time to stop a shot on goal from a central position in or near the penalty area. Pains me to say it, but the mib got that decision right. Calmac did what any good professional would do, took one for the team. If we end up winning the league by a single point, we can point the huns to the incident and watch their heads explode. 😁😁

Sol Kitts
October 3, 2022 12:57 pm

Happy birthday to Jimthetim53. Happy birthday to wee Joan. Are you twins?🍷🥃🎂

October 3, 2022 1:03 pm

Jim the Tim
Happy birthday Jim, and wishing you many more of them. 🎂🎂🎂

October 3, 2022 1:11 pm

Today is also the birthday of the fantastic Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac. At 73 he is a wee bit older than me! 🙂

Jobo Baldie
October 3, 2022 1:16 pm

I thi k I’m right in saying that Calmacs punishment will be a 1 game suspension. Although a straight red it’s the nature of the offence that counts here. Had it been for serious foul play itd have been 2 games. I think.

October 3, 2022 1:24 pm

Agree with Sol Kitts, Calmac took one for the team, thought that as I was watching the game. It was one of the reasons I voted for him in Jobo’s poll.

October 3, 2022 1:25 pm

Jobo Baldie
I read yesterday that it would only be a 1 game ban

October 3, 2022 1:26 pm

CalMac could do with a break. Maybe he took one for himself as well as the team 😁😁

October 3, 2022 1:27 pm

Frodshambhoy, LOL 🙂

bada Bing 1
October 3, 2022 1:52 pm
October 3, 2022 1:54 pm

Jim. 1.11
Great choice of song.
One of my ( many ) favs.
Metal Guru that McCaff put up earlier, is another tremendous tune.

October 3, 2022 2:30 pm

Morning/Afternoon Everyone,

Happy birthdays to JTT and to Joan.

I agree with most of the critique of our last performance as I posted on Saturday. In summary, expectations for this team and manager are far too high in some quarters. These need to be re-evaluated to more reasonable levels. This is only phase 2 of a revitalisation that is long overdue…..on the field and off of it.

Angeball still needs to prove itself as being a sustainable system for the resources that we have available. There are early signs that the necessary energy levels of Ange’s system are not being replicated this season…viz Jota, Kyogo. Perhaps I am being too critical but that is the impression that I have gleaned from domestic matches this season, the exceptions being vs Sevco and DU.

In addition, Ange needs more time to see if he can harvest recruits from the youth setup. Better management of this is crucial for the future competitiveness of Celtic. We simply cannot buy our way out of the disaster of a year ago and rely on finding nuggets like Hatate, Jota etc everytime.

The same is true for the coaching structure for the first team. Who is a natural successor to Ange? Kewell, Kennedy? Not on the basis of their track record so far!


October 3, 2022 2:45 pm

A big happy birthday to Jim the Tim and wee Joan.

The Leopard’s Rimshot
October 3, 2022 3:27 pm

HappyBirthday Jim and wee Joan 🍾🎉🥂