5th October – If you know your history

30 years ago… it’s 1992 and we take a wee bit of licence on European nites to shoehorn in relevant games…

Celts’ record against German teams hasn’t been very good.

Most of us will agree there is absolutely no shame in losing to any German team. Celtic fans in general have formed strong bonds of friendship with German fans and admire their clubs.

We can learn much about their collective attitude towards football.

Their track record has much to be admired.

Although, to be honest, we hadn’t faced many German sides by 1992. It took us almost 14 years of European competition before we faced a team from either of the German countries. Then In Springtime 1976, we welcomed mighty Zwickau (East Germany) to Paradise for a Cup Winners’ Cup Quarter Final. King Kenny opened the scoring in 40 minutes, but a terrible game left Celtic fans with blank expressions as Ludwig Blank scored a crucial breakaway ‘away’ goal …probably the first time I’d heard something almost approaching booing … towards a Celtic team.

The return leg saw Blank extend the German’ advantage and when a Roddie McDonald ‘goal’ was disallowed for a push on their ‘keeper… we realised it just wasn’t going to happen.

It took another 11 years before we faced another German side. Then, like Corporation buses, we faced two in quick succession.

1987/88 UEFA Cup, First Round tie against Borussia Dortmund saw The Hoops secure a 2-1 win (Walker & Whyte) at Paradise. Unfortunately, the advantage was promptly cancelled out in the Westfalenstadion, when the Pythonesque-sounding Norbert Dickel ensured all the schoolboy laughs were on us, when he scored twice without reply. (Agg. 2-3).

The following year, 1988/89 and European Cup, Second Round opponents Werder Bremen, hang onto their Thomas Wolter’ ‘away’ goal scored at Paradise in the First Leg. A commendable scoreless draw in Bremen wasn’t enough, and meant an end to a very disappointing campaign ( Agg. 0-1)

Finally, now to Autumn 1992, Reports that Cologne were propping up the Bundesliga at the time, didn’t make Celtic fans feel confident. Our record in Europe in the period was verging on disastrous. The domestic record was almost as bad..

Cologne visited Paradise with a 2-0 advantage from their home tie of the UEFA Cup, First Round tie…

1992-09-15: Cologne 2-0 Celtic, UEFA Cup

Cologne:
Illgner; Higl, Heldt (Weiser 89), Baumann, Jensen, Rudy, Flick, Lehmann (Sturm 87), Steinmann, Littbarski, Ordenewitz.
Scorers: Jensen (23), Ordenewitz (81)

Celtic:
Marshall; Boyd, Wdowczyk, Galloway, Mowbray, Gillespie, O’Neil (Gran 75), McStay, Slater (Nicholas 75), Creaney, Collins.

Referee: V Zhuk (Bielorus).
Att: 26,000

From memory, our inability to keep a clean sheet at Celtic Park was our Achilles Heel. Time and again, the ‘away’ goal rule worked against us. We had failed to score in Germany and everyone dreaded the loss of another goal at home, that would surely signal the end of any interest in Europe for another season?!

In that context … what transpired under the Paradise floodlights, will remain one of our exceptional European nights…

1992-09-30: Celtic 3-0 FC Cologne, UEFA Cup

Celtic:
Marshall, McNally, Boyd, Grant, Mowbray, Galloway, Slater (Miller 55), McStay, Payton (Fulton 88), Creaney, Collins
Celtic scorers: McStay (36), Creaney (39), Collins (80)

1.FC Cologne:
Illgner, Higl, Greiner, Baumann, Jensen, Rudy, Heldt, Steinmaan (Fuchs, 53), Keuler (Littbarski, 58), Weiser, Ordenewitz

Referee: Goethals (BELGIUM)
Att: 30,747

Mogga … roaring teammates on…

30/09/92 UEFA CUP 1ST ROUND CELTIC V COLOGNE (3-0) CELTIC PARK – GLASGOW Cologne’s Horst Heldt (left) tackles Paul McStay

The Maestro … being a maestro

Creaney or Collins goal? ( help) The Celticwiki credits Gerry Creaney with a goal, but the Official UEFA site credits Johnny Collins with 2 goals https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/match/6150–celtic-vs-koln/

In other news…

Nothing else happened in the world … as every Celtic fan got absolutely plastered for at least a week… watching VHS reruns of the game …listening to The Shamen’s Ebeneezer Goode at No 1 in U.K. charts

General stuff…

1274 Around 1,000 soldiers of the Mongol army land on the Japanese island of Tsushima, the first attack of Kubhlai Khan’s invasion of Japan

1789 French Revolution: Woman of Paris March on Versailles to confront Louis XVI about his refusal to promulgate the decrees on the abolition of feudalism, demand bread, and have the King and his court moved to Paris

1864 Most of Calcutta destroyed by cyclone, approx 60,000 died

1978 Over 30 major nations ratify the Environmental Modification Convention which prohibits weather warfare that has widespread, long-lasting or severe effects

1983 Lech Walęsa wins Nobel Peace Prize

1988 Chile votes in a referendum 56-44 against extending Augusto Pinochet’s regime by 8 years thus ending the dictator’s 16½ years in power.

2000 Mass demonstrations in Belgrade culminate in the resignation of Serbian strongman Slobodan Milošević, often called the Bulldozer Revolution

Note: The excellent Celtic Wiki site is the font of all knowledge on things Celtic. Most of the Celtic stuffabove is from that site. The guys who set it up and painstakingly keep it updated, deserve no end of credit, praise and thanks. A treasure trove for Celtic fans young and old – and new- and free to view.

Respect Bhoys !

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/

Guest article by SeS

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16 roads

Loved that Celtic side,in spite of the lack of success.
Met a fair few of them and still have their autographs on various match day programs.
Mike Galloway eh?
Once read Mick McCarthy’s autobiography and he recalled a bruising encountered they had when Galloway played for Hearts.
McCarthy basically stated that Galloway was a mad bassa!
High praise indeed.
Brilliant memories – The Shamen track perfect representation of those times.
Thanks SeS.
HH. 🍀

16 roads

Same era – spot the Celtic top:

https://youtube.com/shorts/hAxMn7YdPOE?feature=share

🙂🍀

McCaff

SES…brilliant highlights of the Cologne game. That’s a great start to the day, hopefully a wee bit more of the same tonight, Celtic were excellent that night. Second goal most definitely a Crainey deflection but Collins’ goal was a cracker as was McStay’s. McStay and Collins at their best in that game. Good to see Mike Galloway too…what a headcase!! 😁

CFC

SeS

Excellent highlights.

The three foreigner rule!!
Changed days.

Prestonpans bhoys

Mike Galloway was only a few doors up from me at Grove St Musselburgh. I recall driving up to my house and noticed the green buntings outside his house.

Thought he had signed for hibs then one of the neighbours said, no he’s signed for your guys😱

Bigrailroadblues

Good morning all from rainy Govanhill. When is the next hoot/meeting/booze up? I needs to know!

Jobo Baldie

Good late morning friends and Happy European Matchday!!
Thanks for the article SeS. One of the first songs learned and sung with gusto by my now 32 year old daughter was (to the tune of Son Of My Father) “Ooooooh, Mikey, Mike. Mike, Mike, Mikey, Mikey Galloway”. Well, that and a few hymns.
SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM

jimthetim53

SeS, here’s hoping we get a 3-0 win tonight. 🙂

jimthetim53

Also hoping St. Johnstone beat Kilmarnock. Every time I see a fixture of a team with a plastic pitch I want them beaten. Keep them out of the Premiership! Although all the other clubs are at fault for allowing it.

Jobo Baldie

So, looking ahead to later fingers crossed that everyone has great difficulty in narrowing down our start performers to just the three, then voting in great numbers!
On that subject there’ll be a wee change for this one game. Whilst I’d still promote the old ‘vote ear.y and vote often’ motto, for this one game only the poll will remain open until 8am on Friday morning, an extra 10 hours. On Thursday evening I have a wild night out at The Pavilion to see Gilbert O’Sullivan in concert (still have one spare ticket by the way!). And as I’ll be utilising my free bus pass it’ll be late by the time I’m back home.
So, I expect to put out the results at 9am on Friday morning on both the Sentinel Celts and CQN websites.
If your email is about something completely different, I’ll get back to you!! But please bear with me for a reply.
Thanks.
Jobo

Big Audio Dynamite

SeS, a highlight in a very dark period. Sickening to look back at that time, knowing what we know now! The fact we have NEVER insisted on justice for all those Tic teams and players who were cheated, still rankles to this day.

Jimthetim53, totally agree about those pitches, mate. When you consider the price for tickets these days too, it’s a scandal that top -flight football is played on those crap surfaces. I also get nervous every time Celtic have to play on them, as I consider them to be really dangerous.

Leggy

Cheers for the update Jobo 👍👍

So no takers for the ticket. Not a big fan myself but you enjoy it 👍

Alone again naturally CSC. 🍀🍀🍀

Big Audio Dynamite

14th time a charm for the Celts in Germany?

Leipzig 1 v Celtic 2

Craig76

Young Hoops 2 nil up at half time. It’s a sign I tell you ☘️☘️

bada bing1

https://twitter.com/18lj72/status/1577240940393029633?s=24&t=AyPlCF9EFxKEWPxc_JZWIQ

Scum singing about Hillsborough Disaster, a new low even for them,post this everywhere, as SMSM will blank it

Saltires

Quite brilliant, as ever. I remember that Cologne vividly. John Collins scored an absolute belter. A mate of mine had travelled to the away game. One of the Germans was red carded, and my pal was caught on camera, giving the German a volley of abuse. He was given peters for that for years .😀

CFC

The ‘3 foreigner rule’? In Scotland this was-somewhat unkindly-known as the ‘8 diddy’ rule.

Hail Hail.

Leggy

SeS,

Wonderful memories, Thanks for posting 👏👏👏

Remember I went to Bremen game in Germany and in a pub full of Celtic fans, doing a “ Conga” to the famous “ Ohh ohh do the McAvennie, Ohh Ohh the McAvennie”

The boy behind me says, “there’s Paul McStays dad near the front of this big conga !!!

Great memories and don’t ask why I had a Dortmund Tammy on after a game in Bremen 🤔🤔🤔

jimthetim53

SeS, hope you’re taking notes about tonight’s game so that you can write about it on here in 50 years time. You wont even need to refer to the celticwiki. LOL 🙂

IniquitousIV

Bigrailroadblues
Just curious mate. I was wondering how a hoot/meeting/booze up was different from a normal day?😊

Margaret McGill

For those interested Univision is showing Leipzig v Celtic today for free.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

SALTIRES

I don’t think I’d seen us play a German side untilBayern Munich about four years ago. Swiftly followed by Leverkusen a year ago. So I’ve yet to see us win!

Having said that,we weren’t much known for getting past Christmas in Europe in my peak attendance years.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

MAGS

Thanks for the info,old bean. Hopefully this is a working link to it.

https://www.tudn.com/futbol/uefa-champions-league/rb-leipzig-vs-celtic-uefa-champions-league-2022-10-05

Craig76
St tams

SeS
Excellent as always 👍
Disappointed that GG isn’t starting tonight.

Frodshambhoy

About to board my flight to Tenerife. Take off at 5.25 so will miss the game. Hoping for a happy landing with news of a famous Glasgow Celtic victory. (TBH a draw would make me smile as well). COYBIG ☘️☘️☘️☘️

jimthetim53

Frodshambhoy, enjoy your holiday! 🙂

The Leopard’s Rimshot

Mon The Hoops!

An away victory in Germany on Jock’s 100th birthday 💪🍀🇮🇪

Frodshambhoy

jimthetim53
Frodshambhoy, enjoy your holiday! 🙂

Thanks. Score tonight will decide how much I enjoy it. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

fan

Not keen on that midfield trio in European away games.
Lacks positional sense and balance.
Offers zero protection to an already weak defense.

16 roads

COME ON CELTIC! 🍀

Bigrailroadblues

Iniquitousiv 3.51.
I dunno. 🤔
🤣

Prestonpans bhoys

Cousin texted me saying hope you win, as he sits at rugby park for his Killie game😱😵

Mike in Toronto

Apologies if already posted and I missed it … but Jock Stein was born 100 years ago today.

IniquitousIV

Poulsen and Forsberg on the bench.

jimthetim53

Bobby’s link isn’t working for me! Help. Anyone else got a link?

Prestonpans bhoys

Here we go⚽. My prediction 2:2👏

Craig76

Posts not appearing 🤷‍♂️

Prestonpans bhoys

Jings the parting of the waves from central defence. Got away with it

IniquitousIV

Like a knife through butter.

Sol Kitts

Bloody hell, our defence needs to get into the game quickly.

IniquitousIV

We have huge gaps at the back.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

Might be a long night unless we get a grip soon.

IniquitousIV

The streaming effect on Paramount+ makes the game look like slow motion.

16 roads

Just hit the thing ffs.

IniquitousIV

Jeez, O’Riley looks so slow.

IniquitousIV

Marco Rose looking very relaxed.

16 roads

We are getting opportunities, far too lackadaisical though.

Sol Kitts

Ref brings it back for a free kick after advantage to RB. Pity he didn’t do the same a couple of minutes ago when Jota was fouled.

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