Calling Out The Refereeing Cabal

Fellow Sentinels, Celtic have made an announcement in the forthcoming AGM papers that paves the way to wider engagement  with shareholders before and at AGMS. It provides an opportunity to address issues that might otherwise get lost on the day. 

The announcement said.

To AGM 4th November, 2022 (11:30) 

(Items to be submitted 24 hours earlier.)

“Shareholders are reminded that they can contact the Company at any time during the year with questions or suggestions via  www.investorcentre.co.uk/eproxy. Further, shareholders are again welcome to submit questions in advance of the AGM via this email address, which the Board will endeavour to address at the AGM. “

This provides Sentinel Celts with the opportunity to present the following question asking  Celtic to consider how  referee standards in Scotland might be improved. It is an effort worth making and Celtic’s response will be interesting on a number of levels.

Sentinel Celts group (SC) ask that AGM consider the following as a means of addressing the ongoing issue of poor Refereeing standards in Scotland.

SC believe the existing model is damaging the quality and credibility of the game in Scotland. There are too many examples of poor decision-making to list here. 

However, we believe that trust in our Refereeing Process Is at an all-time low. Despite some welcome recent successes in Europe, there remains a view that our football is lacking finesse. That skilful footballers are being intimidated, injured and lost to our game. 

The SFA manage everything: Recruitment & Selection, Training & Development and allocation of fixtures, to Evaluating Performance and Reviewing Disciplinary Processes.

The SFA, even with VAR ,will be marking their own homework. Fans ( customers) feel there is no visible means to address inconsistencies and quality of service. There appears to be little or no accountability. They lack openness and which leaves them open to allegations of incompetence, or worse.

Our Aim is to explore viable options to improve the game we love. 

We propose AGM appoint a Celtic official with prior knowledge of existing administration and processes. To explore options for change and seek expert advice and opinion to aid and inform on practical solutions.

We also engage with other clubs, and their fans, to establish if there is a broad consensus for change. 

Ultimately, take proposals forward to SFA for consideration, and with enough votes, implementation.

SC recommend utilising The next Fans’ Forum #25 and form a Sub Group to discuss/debate feasibility of establishing SFA as a ‘Service’ to customers (SFAaaS):

A) SFA continue to:

•            Recruit & Select Referees

•            Train & Develop Referees

•            Allocate matches to Referees.

B) Customer Service Panel (New and Independent of SFA run by member clubs Tbc)

   –   Evaluate Performance of Match Officials & publish ratings

•            Manage Disciplinary Procedures & Appeals

•            Manage VAR Service in liaison with English or European provider 

•            Manage Drug-testing of Match Officials & Players.

•            Provide an Annual Report to SFA Clubs & Fans

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Craig76

Happy Sunday folks
A wee unique angle to start your day

https://twitter.com/CelticTV/status/1581389454090059778?s=20&t=AOdg-sxcMuFDekGbak8Giw

Puff puff

Your a true Tim man …

Chairbhoy

Good Morning – What a Grand Day To Be A Tim

Well, there’s an interesting proposal, we have seen this week how Scottish Foirball equates in Europe and it wasn’t a pretty sight.

Celtic, while by far being the most progressive and forward thinking team in Scotland got played off the park at home by a Bundesliga also ran.

And the less said about the Hearts and the Rangers mismatches the better.

– Of course the banter was mighty, as is football fans’ wont, yet that only allows the SFA off the hook and allows the misguided Celtic supporters to reminiscence about Hampden in the sun, a game very few actually saw against a defunct football Club.

You don’t have to dig far to see how dysfunctional Scottish football is. The old firm and bent referees is as synonymous with our game as the smell of grease paint the roar of the crowd is to theatre.

The VAR milestone is another opportunity to change things but as with the referees strike or the demise of Rangers it won’t – the issues and challenges are much deeper and more entangled.

A root and branch clear out is what is needed and as long as turkeys decline to vote for Christmas, the languid, old boys status quo shall remain.

This of course doesn’t mean every effort should not be expounded, on the contrary, anyway in which we can rid Scottish football of it’s pipe and slippers and hold it’s feet to the fire is to be vigorously supported.

Good luck with the initiative.

Hail Hail

Chairbhoy

What a game yesterday, while I predicted a “cracker”, which of course we got, I’d expected more than a bit part from Hibs who were over run by a rampant Celtic side.

Not sharing others trepidation of the team selection, it is no surprise that finding three players for Jobo’s POTY presents immense difficulties – a strong defence, a dominant midfield and a deadly strike force means candidates galore.

History was made at Celtic Park yesterday by the Celtic old guard, James Forrest a Celt as man and bhoy scoring a hat-trick to become only the thirtieth player in our illustrious history to score a hundred goals, with over a hundred assists it takes him into a very elite club.

So, that leaves us two – an impossible task, in the first half Haksabanovic and Bernabei were phenomenal, so much so, the game was over as a competition by half time. A tour de force of defence to attack, to interplay and interchange which was simply sublime.

Yet going for those two means no more wishes and Giakoumakis as an embodier of the modern centre forward and two goals to boot, means he too is a very strong candidate.

So with vote one a no brainer going to the MOTM I’m going for the ghuys who roared, you need to start me. That is Bernabei and Giakoumakis who put solid stakes in the ground, sure it is tough on a few – Matt as the new Calmac (who he!?) and Haksabanovic immense and the fact he only played one half is the poor excuse I’d give for not picking him.

So winging it’s way to SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM

1 James Forrest

2. Bernabei

3. Giakoumakis

Now what do fholks think about Giakoumakis at number nine and Kyoto at number ten, not for all matches but those “must win” games – I’d like to see how Shakhtar copes with that at Celtic Park.

Have a great day Celts

Hail Hail

Twisty

Morning all.
Week 17 naps competition

Well we didn’t quite manage to emulate the hoops and hit 6 yesterday, but our napsters ran them close with a fabulous 5.

It was looking like a 3 way dead heat for our star man this week with three tipsters returning 3/1 winners. Gerry FTB, Leggy and St Tams were the ones in contention, until JOBO stepped in to claim the plaudits courtesy of his weather related tip, Snowy Clouds, who, under Sean Quinlan, absolutely ran away from the even money fav to win by an impressive 6 lengths at a rewarding price of 4/1.
Weet Weet Weet was the other successful punter this week with an 11/8 winner, and he completed the fivefold.
So congratulations to Jobo, and very well done to Gerry, Leggy, St Tams and Weet Weet Weet.

St Tams’ winner moves him to the top of the leaderboard for the first time this season just ahead of our long time leader Bobby. Well done ST Tams. Consistency paying off. 👏👏👏

(Just a pity we didn’t get one more to equal the bhoys. If only someone had tipped up Umbrigado we would’ve managed the super 6. He got his neck in front of Valentino in a photo finish at the nice price of 5/1😁)

On a serious note, McCaff that was dreadfully unlucky bud. Forever telling the missus DONT change yer selection, as invariably it pans out the way it did for you yesterday. In normal circumstances I’d award you the idiot of the week, but if it makes you feel any better you were beaten for that particular award by my good self.
Wednesday I was looking through the ‘whatoddspaddy’ section on the Rangers – Liverpool match.
Rangers to score in first half plus a Salah hat trick was 50/1. I put £2 on it.
I was busy and sat down just as the teams were coming out the tunnel. “ Where’s Salah?. Ach he’s on the bench”

I cashed the £2 back out and put it on Liverpool to win 3-1. You know the rest 😂.

Updated table.

St Tams £21.50

BMCUW. £19.75

McCaff. £17.58

Cosy Corner Bhoy £16.50

16 Roads. £ 11.83

Danny Mac. £11.08

Big Packy. £11.07

Weet Weet Weet. £10.76

Mahe. £8.50

VP. £5.88

Call me Gerry. £ 1.00

Jimmy not Paul. £0.83

Jobo. £0.25

Jungle Gerry. £0.00

Craig 76. -£1.50

Twisty. -£4.50
GFTB. – £4.50

Charlinic. -£4.62

DRM. -£4.88

Lefty (LCT). -£6.12

Leggy. -£8.00

Chalmersbhoy. -£8.13

Gordon. -£8.50

CCE. -£8.87

Jim. -£8.91

Bada. -£13.62

All other runners on -£17
ATOB, BRRB, , Hashadenough, Raymac, The Real McCoy.

A thing of beauty

Proud that the site has taken the initiative to ask the board to challenge the standard of refereeing. I will watch with interest to see if it is taken on board. I’m hopeful other sites will get behind it too. We all see every week the different standards we are refereed to and it is just wrong. Yesterday, as an example we won 6-1 but I’m sure GG had a penalty denied at the end of the first half. For some reason we haven’t spoken about it here. A caller onto SSB raised other questionable decisions during the game. He was pilloried for making his call about refs when we won 6-1. Actually as we know, the caller was making the point because we won 6-1 as when we do it after defeat it’s dismissed as sour grapes. His call wasn’t really about Celtic, it was about the poor standard but the go to response was the paranoia shit again.
The very fact that the SFA cannot see or don’t want to see that the way football is played in this country is holding us back as a nation means they are unfit for purpose. We need to play the way other countries do and protect the players from thuggery. Why is it we don’t want to do that? It mystifies me.
Craig 76,
Thanks for the unique angle. We’re having a tough time just now but it’s heartening to see the players are still altogether.

The Leopard’s Rimshot

What a refreshing start to the day, a wide ranging proposal to implement change and improve the game.

I’m sure the Celtic board, and in particular the SFA, will be just effervescent upon hearing of it 😁

Good work, lads, keep sticking it to them.

But remember, Murdoch didn’t deliberately do the Scottish game down all by himself, he was working on behalf of far larger and more powerful corporate interests than his own so you’ll be up against it from the off, as those scum want the Scottish game in the gutter with its grotesque double headed Phoenix duopoly the sole highlight.

Twisty

Todays article – plus- this from todays Daily Record. Join the dots:

Glasgow councillor claims SNP colleagues are ‘anti-Catholic’ and ‘provisional IRA sympathisers’ in explosive memo
In an explosive memo sent to party headquarters, councillor Feargal Dalton alleged that some of his colleagues within the Glasgow SNP group were bigots and that he had considered quitting because of the alleged abuse.

The SNP faces bombshell allegations of internal deep-rooted sectarianism at the heart of its team leading Scotland’s biggest local authority. In an explosive memo sent to party headquarters, a councillor complained about “terrorist sympathisers” and “bigots” within the Glasgow SNP group.
In the complaint, passed to the Sunday Mail, Feargal Dalton alleged his colleagues were both “anti-Catholic” and “Provisional IRA sympathisers” and said the abuse got so bad he had considered quitting the party. He also raised concerns that the Glasgow SNP group was drifting away from the central party’s stance on issues such as abortion and Catholic education.

The SNP has been the ruling administration in Glasgow for the past five years. It took control of the authority from Labour, for the first time, in 2017 before retaining power in this year’s elections. According to a senior party figure, the complaint was “unresolved” and tensions remain within the group.

Another party member said there were “serious underlying issues” which have continued despite the election success earlier this year. Many councillors who were serving at the time of the complaint are still in office, including Dalton, who is married to SNP MP Carol Monaghan.

The memo, sent to the SNP’s compliance officer Ian McCann, detailed a series of incidents the councillor believed to be anti-Catholic, which took place in 2018 and 2019. Dalton said: “I put forward a motion relating to the centenary of the Education Act 1918 and Catholic schools to coincide with Nicola Sturgeon’s address to the Annual Cardinal Winning Lecture…

“I expected some discussion about Catholic education but was content that with the SNP being in support of Catholic schools, there would be no major issues. What I didn’t expect was open and brazen anti-Catholic rhetoric. It was truly shocking. I had to respectfully remind colleagues that I am a Catholic but this made no difference.

The hate just kept flowing. I hadn’t realised some people in Glasgow still possessed such deep-seated irrational hatred for me and my faith community. Maybe, I’ve been living in a bubble but I was, and still am, totally shocked that people have such prejudices and felt so comfortable expressing them.”

Dalton claimed he was asked to withdraw his motion about Catholic education, and added: “Fortunately, my colleague Eva Bolander [former lord provost] realised the shocking nature of what we had witnessed and the political opportunity missed.
“She organised a civic reception celebrating Catholic schools which received extremely positive coverage”.
Dalton also claimed that two SNP members were excused from voting in support of Armed Forces Day during a full council meeting “essentially because they are Provisional IRA sympathisers” and said he was forced to withdraw a motion in support of the RAF after being “openly ridiculed” by colleagues.
In further allegations, Dalton said he had been threatened with sanctions after raising concerns about the party’s stance on buffer zones outside hospitals. He said: “I went to the leadership to say this should not be something the SNP takes a line on and that I couldn’t vote for a motion that describes abortion as healthcare, besides the fact the motion was looking to restrict people’s right to free assembly. I was told I would be sanctioned.”

Frodshambhoy

Great initiative guys good luck. I guess you know you’ll need it.
The wording is very polite and PC. Kudos. It must’ve taken a lot of effort to compose the proposal in that form. Well done. No mention of hun bassa referees anywhere.

Great unique angle footage. Like ATOB I am always heartened by the player’s goal celebrations. They look like a bunch of guys that are fully in tune with each other.

Craig 76

James Forrests 1st celtic goal
not a big crowd, was there a protest that day

Billy Bhoy

Morning all!

Woke up a happy bhoy this morning. Still glowing with satisfaction at what I witnessed yesterday.

I heard the team while driving to Paradise. I was really pleased that Ange had virtually gone with the exact team that I wanted to see. I was very confident that we would see a good display – I just didn’t expect it to be so exhilarating. Fair play to Hibs for contributing to an open ended game played in a good spirit. It was a great advert for Scottish football. Except for Porteous and the referee – which was a given.

In the first half I was struck by the similarity of Bernabei to KT and the assists just cemented that. Similary, from the Main Stand the performance of Haksabanovic reminded me strongly of that wee Slovakian genuis we got to enjoy all too briefly. These two have put down a heavy claim for first team starts.

It was a real privilege to be in attendance to witness another slice of Celtic history being made. It was inevitable that at some point we would see James Forrest join the legends but it was made even more special by it being with a hat trick in a 6-1 win.

Finally, congratulations to all concerned on putting together this motion for the AGM. It will be very interesting to see how the club react to this. I can’t say that I’m optimistic given their shameful obfuscation of Res 12.

Fingers crossed though.

JimmynotPaul

That’s a well worded suggestion.
Well done to all, involved.
Chairbhoy 7.02.
Maybe not a big surprise, ( as we appear to agree on a lot ) the same 3 selections, I chose.

Chairbhoy

JNP @ 9:29 am,

Excellent – always good to be in tune with the brains of the outfit!!

Craig 76 @ 9:13 am,

Another fine post, Aiden McGeady having a stormer, how clinical was Robbie Keane, could have done with him this season.

Great to see young Jamsie come on and score his first goal.

Yes, a somewhat sparse crowd, you can see why Lenny had to “bring back the thunder!”

Hail Hail

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CRAIG76

We’ve come a long way since then,thankfully. Some real dross in the side. For instance,we won 4-0,yet our front two didn’t get a mention!

Of that starting eleven,I think maybe only Sami-on one of his good days-Boruc and Hinkel would get near our first team squad.

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On the proposal outlined in the article,MAHE and I are very grateful to the fine gentlemen who worked on this and offered it to us for publication.

I too hope that other sites will highlight it to their own readers,as it is a matter of genuine importance to EVERY supporter of Scottish football. For too long,referees have been able to adjudicate as they wish. Not without fear nor favour,as should be the case,but without fear of sanction-unless a certain club complains,of course.

This has to stop,the laws of the game are there to be enforced,not to be used as a starting point for negotiation. I hope every shareholder who feels the importance of this issue will register their disquiet/frustration/anger to

http://www.investorcentre.co.uk/eproxy

as outlined above.

Craig76

BMCUWP
I had to look up the stats for Rasmussen, he only played 10 games and out of that 6 were as a sub, as you say some dross we had

👍Chairbhoy
Didn’t Robbie get player of the season even though he only signed in the January 🤔

Big Audio Dynamite

I’ll consider what improvements can be made for the betterment of the game in Scotland, the minute we have INSISTED that WE are refereed to the same standard as our competition! That should be the starting point for any discussion …Why we are treated different??

Foul count from Celtic v Hibernian
17-7 👀
To arrive at those figures every week is just plain cheating …no other word for it!!!

JimmynotPaul

Craig 9.55.
Yes, Robbie was voted fans player of the year, despite only arriving in Feb.

Craig76

McLean should be made to explain this, but we know he won’t
https://twitter.com/20MinuteTims/status/1581559532597100544?s=20&t=ZWhc8hI0HTEeTOyCCyIJvQ

Big Audio Dynamite

As much as we know they are both sheet, losing Goldson and Jack for months will not help Sevco challenge us this year.

Chairbhoy

Craig76 @ 9:55,

He was head and shoulders above everyone in that league and his commitment was unrelenting, so well deserved.

I know that he was on astronomical wages but it was his ambition to put on the hoops and although he was at the peak of his powers, Robbie found himself transient.

Pushing the boat out to bring him to Celtic Park would have been worth it, a true No7.

Still we are in a good place now, Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither will Ange’s Celtic – liking the idea of this new Director of Football, could be an important piece of the jigsaw.

Hail Hail

fan

Was back in Scotland due to family bereavement and sister gave me her season ticket so lucky to attend game in person.
Yesterday the most encouraging and complete part of a team was the left side triangle of Bernabei,Hatate and Haksabanovic .
Their positional changes and movement was utter perfection .
The longer they play together the more potent they will become.
When one came inside the other two formed the triangle with seamless interchange.
As the A-Teams leader was fond of saying i love it when a plan comes together.
Now to replicate on right side.
Kudos to O’Riley also for keeping the engine running.

Also was in the Lisbon Lions side to the right and on the debate about the officials the linesman on that side was hopeless not biased.
He was constantly behind play and any time he raised his flag it was more based on a guess than being correct.
McLean was just his usual cheating self.

St tams

Well done to all who took part in compiling the proposal.
Excellent work.
Let’s see what the cowards on the board do now.

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CRAIG76

A perfect example of what the article is trying to address.

A Hibs player goes flying in to stop Bernabei,misses and falls headlong-and the offence is by Bernabei?

Aye,in what alternative universe-except the one patrolled by Scottish referees.

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FAN

My condolences on your loss.

Glad you got to see our heroes in the flesh though,and that they made the trip “worthwhile” for you.

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Re our early kick-off on Wednesday,I doubt that it was caused by Rangers petulantly refusing to play on Thursday.

They have a CL tie against Napoli the following Tuesday,so Thursday would not have been possible. It wouldn’t have been possible for us either,as we have a league match on the Saturday. Premier have only themselves to blame,as they could have scheduled us for Tuesday night.

JimmynotPaul

BMCUW 11.17.
Motherwell play today, so Tues was not an option for Motherwell v Celtic, either.

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JIMMYNOTPAUL

I’d forgotten about that!

Sol Kitts

Fan
Without trying to defend the assistant yesterday, having done the same job here in England, I can safely say that being an assistant ref in a game can be harder than being in the middle. Sure, the ref is the man in charge, but he should be able to easily stay in close contact with play, and when he’s caught out, say by a long ball, his assistant is there to bail him out.
The assistant, however, has to effectively referee the game from the sideline, judge offsides, ball out of play, ball over the goal line, look out for foul play, look for off the ball incidents, and try to stop the ref making a tit of himself.
Offside was the hardest part of it all, though. Players are constantly on the edge of offside, moving onside at the last moment as the ball is played. Defenders constantly move forward at the same time, trying to leave the attacker in an offside position. I found I needed an ability to almost see in 2 directions simultaneously (where the ball was played from and where the attacker was positioned when it was played) and make a judgement based on the snapshot in my head of the incident. It’s a skill, and if you don’t have it you shouldn’t be officiating at the top level.
Yesterday’s assistant left himself wide open for criticism, especially at the fumble over the line by Marshall. The ball crossed the line (shut up, Kenny Miller) but the only person who could decide this was the assistant. Was he in line with the goal line? Dunno. On TV you don’t see him flag for the goal and by the time the cameras caught up with him he was running back up the line. When the Hibs players had turned to see his position they wouldn’t have known he was in line and able to judge, they would only have seen him 6 yards off the line. Should have held his ground until the defenders saw him, then leg it.
He got away with it because Marshall acknowledged it was over the line. Would the beast have let him off so easily? Not a hope in hell.
Back to the referee standards, one simple way to instantly remove the bias we, and other teams see every week, is to adopt the same system found all over the football world that refs must declare which team they support, and any club where they have an interest (season ticket holder in the past, shareholder, external employment, business relationship). They are then prohibited from officiating in any game involving this club, and any where the result could have a material effect on their preferred club. I know from experience that this is checked (my son played youth football for a local Ryman team, and I had to declare this). Had I not declared it and the FA found out, my reffing career would have been over. I find it a preposterous idea that the SFA expects us to believe that Scottish referees are of such high moral standards that they are able to cast aside their prejudices and referee all teams to the same standard. We all know this is nonsense, and it’s time it was called out for being exactly that.

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SOLKITTS

As you know,I have the highest moral standards. Well,depending on how I feel at the time. But there’s no way I could referee a Rangers match without my own prejudices kicking in.

Craig76

1985 Scottish Cup Final: Dundee United 1-2 Celtic / The Scottish Cup

Frodshambhoy

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I too hope that other sites will highlight it to their own readers,as it is a matter of genuine importance to EVERY supporter of Scottish football. For too long,referees have been able to adjudicate as they wish. Not without fear nor favour,as should be the case,but without fear of sanction-unless a certain club complains,of course.

Bobby, the fact is that Sevco do complain, more than most. From items copied and posted on here from hun fan sites they believe that we receive favourable treatment from refs. I know, I know but they do complain about the unseen Fenian hand.
Most other clubs think there is an “Old Firm” bias.

No matter what way you look at it Scottish refereeing is pants. There is good reason for all fans to call for a review even if we are all coming from a different angle.

PS – just read Sol Kitts post.
Bang on about refs declaring their club affinities.
However, I think it would be almost impossible to find enough neutral refs to take charge of hun games. At present hun refs are actively supported and promoted by the powers that be.
I also think we have a problem with Celtic supporter refs. To me they go too far to demonstrate neutrality in their decision making so we even get done over by them. On the other hand hun refs don’t have a conscience and are even happy to be seen having a post match beer with their hun mates.

All in all this is a massive problem.

fan

Frodshambhoy
Referees understand the environment they exist in.
Simply put make a mistake that adversely affects Rangers and face weeks of media scrutiny calling out your competency and calls for your demotion.
Make a mistake favoring Rangers and the protective curtain comes down from media to either completely ignore or drag out so called experts (biased huns) to justify the unjustifiable.

Sol Kitts
Guy ran line in both half’s exactly the same way.
He was consistent in always being behind play.
Surely he should be focused on staying in line with last defender?
There was no hint of favoritism to either team.

Morning all.

WHAT A LEADER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prestonpans bhoys

This hun game is dire, looks more like an end of season meaningless game!

The Real McCoy

Bobby—
Re Premier Sports Cup ( League Cup) fixtures.
All was going to plan with fixtures scheduled for TV .
Celtic were always scheduled for Wednesday and Ragers for Thursday.
Celtic play Shakhtar on Tuesday 25th at 8pm.
Ragers see Naples and die on the Wednesday.
HH💚🍀
P.S. maybe cheap flights ✈️ are only available on the Sunday and had already been booked with NO REFUND conditions 😂
HH💚🍀

Big Audio Dynamite

Motherwell already perplexed and angry about the refereeing

SeS

Great to see support for the AGM proposal.

Would be helpful to see the Aye’s or Naw’s – indicating level of support here. ( lurkers please join in )

For meaningful change to happen, it would help to see some evidence of the numbers on here who feel the need for change. More importantly, are willing to engage to make it happen. ( at a recent Fans’ Forum #24 a Celtic Executive made the valid point (paraphrasing) that opinions on blogs could represent 10% or more, or much less, of the wider Celtic support.) Not an unreasonable position to adopt, and the club have now initiated the Celtic Census which aims to reach out to the wider support to understand the issues and views. It will report finding in January 2023

Today’s leader could potentially point to the sole purpose of the “cabal”, as a force-malign operating a furtive mechanism to benefit all the teams playing out of Ibrox.

To the sole detriment of Celtic.

The issue is much bigger than that, as the Leader clearly acknowledged .

Generally, we require to see focus on risks inherent in the existing ‘Top-Down’ model. The Full and complete control that a few people can exert over how refereeing is managed in Scotland has absolutely wrecked our Fitba.

‘Refereeing’ In Scotland is clearly not fit for purpose now, if it ever was.

Improving the quality of refereeing standards should facilitate improvement in the quality of football we watch, and enable our teams to compete on a more equal footing at home, in Europe and Internationally. More skilful players will have a platform to flourish. The less skilful? They find their way back down the divisions where they always belonged.

All towards a General benefit to Fitba in Scotland.

From a Celtic fans’ perspective, we will benefit from above, and enjoy more open and visible evaluation of Refereeing performance, and how the disciplinary process is managed. VAR and Drug Testing could be out-sourced to a country where the facilities are already acknowledged as providing both value and consistency.

No one man or women or group, should exert a malign influence on our game. The existing model is absolutely ripe for that. We call it Mibbery. For good reason!

Anyone looking to build a career in Refereeing, should be never feel they cannot flourish and grow if they want to apply rules without ‘ fear or favour’.

As this process moves forward, and we hope and trust it will, let’s have a care it’s not seen as ‘Celtic only’ and remember allegations that we are two cheeks of the same arse – along with Sevco. Whether we agree or not, let’s acknowledge that view is held by fans of other clubs.

Only one view …and really looking forward to reading views of our SC community.

Let’s grow a broad consensus for positive change.

Sol Kitts

Fan
100%, his default position should be in line with the 2nd last defender (usually includes the keeper but not always). If he is behind play when the offside (or goal decision) happens, he should make sure he’s caught up by the time anyone looks over at him.

Sol Kitts

The ref in the Huns game is the first I’ve seen all season who knows what 10 yards looks like.

Sol Kitts

Today’s ref is David Dickinson. Is he the real deal?
Ah’ll get ma coat.

Prestonpans bhoys

Van Veen crashing into hun players, he did the same against us, the only difference is against us the ref would award him a foul.

The Real McCoy

SeS 👋🏻
‘ if it ever was ‘ ?
Same As It Ever Was ….
12yo Master McCoy witnessed Right Hun Davidson ( spit 🐶 ) at Hampden in the 1970 Scottish Cup Final. Cheatin DOB 😡
Cheatin DOBS then . Cheatin DOBS now.
Cheatin DOBS forever ? 🤔
HH💚🍀

The Real McCoy

Made me laugh last night 😂

On a lighter note 😁
Scouser sitting in Ibrox Wednesday night ,
Rosary beads in hand ….
Big knuckle-dragging Hun says –
‘ Oi ye cannae pray in here ya fenian scouse
prick !!! ‘
Scouser replied——
“ ahm not praying , lad .
Ahm keeping the score , lar ‘
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
HH 💚🍀

Craig76

Sol Kitts
David Dickinson was renowned for being orange so a ref with that name wouldn’t be the strangest thing 😀🟠

Big Audio Dynamite

Booked for time wasting in the first half??

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

THEREALMCCOY

Poor working from me! I just assumed that the ties were TWTWTW or WTWTWT

In my defence,it has been five years!

Sol Kitts

BAD
How much time is wasted by our opponents in every game, but we never see anything done about it?

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