Knuckling Down-And Taking A Break

Morning,all.

With our European adventure over till next season,we can now concentrate our endeavours on the domestic front. For three whole games,until the five week break for The World Cup begins! I know,whose idea was it to have a World Cup in the middle of the season,whose idea was it to hold it in one of the hottest countries in the world,etc.

Well,we know the names of the delegates at the conference where the decision was made,though it might be a bit unfair to blame them personally. Most of them would have been under instructions from their own domestic associations about where to place their vote. How many of them decided against those instructions-for reasons known only to themselves-we will never know. Nor why,though we can guess.

Before we look at the match on Saturday,let’s have a wee ponder on which of our players are likely to be in Qatar later this month. I think Juranovic is nailed on for Croatia,and it will give him the opportunity to use the tournament as a shop window. CCV is a probable,IMO,for the USA. O’Riley is a less likely option for the Denmark squad,which also applies to Jota and Portugal,while Maeda has made the latest cut for Japan.

Speaking of making the latest cut for Japan,Reo and Kyogo will be deeply disappointed not to have done so. Kyogo probably has one more such tournament in him,while Reo has his future ahead of him. Each will still be on a stand-by list should any of their colleagues be unfortunate enough to be forced out late. But overall,I think we will only have two representatives at the tournament. (I expect I’ve missed someone out,so please correct that if so) Is this good news for Celtic,or is it a poor reflection on the quality of our squad?

I think it is likely to be good news for Celtic,as we can concentrate on The Ange Homecoming Tour and some light training,while largely giving the players a mid-season breather. By the time the break comes along,they will have completed more than a dozen games since the start of October alone. Everyone needs the opportunity to recharge the batteries,and they should grasp it with both hands. As for the quality of the squad? No,not so much. The way football has been carved up over the last few years means that few players playing in a smaller league will be there-unless that league’s national team has itself qualified,of course.

There’s no shame in only having two players there. There will be sides in the EPL with less than that,I expect. Get the batteries recharged for the remaining months of the season,that is way more important.

But back to tomorrow. The last time we played Dundee Utd was on a Bank Holiday down here,and I was invited over to stay with Mr and Mrs SOLKITTS for the duration. On the Saturday afternoon,we were killing some time before a tea-time visit to the pub when the latest score at Bournemouth flashed up. 

Losing by 9-0 at home to Liverpool! Not only an embarrassment,but as I explained to SOLKITTS,bang out of order by Liverpool. Is it fair to pile on the brakes when you’ve gone,say,six goals up and your fans have travelled about 300 miles at great expense-have you seen the price of a pint in Bournemouth?-just to save the blushes of some fellow professionals? Obviously not,because that was the decision made by the Liverpool players. To just go for it and score as many as possible.

My comment that if they scored ten,it would be shameful for both sides soon came back to bite me on the arse though! Yes,Celtic duly took to the field the following say at Tannadice-and scored nine too. My pleasure outweighed my discomfort,I have to admit. Yes,I felt for the Dundee Utd players,but mainly I was enjoying our performance way too much.

Something about that game,which I mentioned at the time,was the number of our goals which came from similar moves on either wing. A player would have the ball around the corner of the penalty box,draw the defenders and release it inside and towards the goal line for an overlapping colleague to fire low and hard into the six yard box. I think we scored six of our goals that day from doing that.

We haven’t seen enough of that directness and quality since. We could do with more of it,for sure.

As usual,there will be no predictions here for either the scoreline or the selections. Ange will have his own thoughts on the latter,and he can’t understand my accent anyway. One or two areas will probably be subject to the latest injury reports,another one or two will maybe be subject to squad rotation,but the system will largely be the same. I’m certainly fine with that!

Saturday gives us a chance to go seven points clear  of our nearest rivals,at least overnight. It is unusual for us to play before them,though we did so a couple of weeks ago when we made heavy weather of it at Tynecastle. Nothing taken for granted by this Celtic supporter,that’s for sure,but by concentrating on the job in hand and playing to our best ability,we have the chance to put the thumbscrews on those rivals.

It’s hard enough to get some kip when there’s fireworks going off all night,but it will hopefully be multiplied by the prospect of being seven points behind by the time the weekend is over. Give them another reason for a sleepless night,Celtic. And do it in style too.

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JOBO POTY latest update.

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*SENTINEL CELTS PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2022-23*
RESULTS FROM GAME #20 – REAL MADRID 5 CELTIC 1 (JOTA)

Good evening, friends.
May I begin with an apology. When I put out the results from the Livingston game, I completely forgot about October’s Player Of the Month award. I’ll return to this at the end of this report.
I must admit that when Madrid’s 4th goal went in on just 61 minutes my thoughts fleetingly turned to events at Ibrox 3 weeks ago and I did fear we might lose several more goals and be on the receiving end of our biggest ever European defeat. So, in the end a 4-goal loss was a slight relief!
And yet, for me at least, it wasn’t a ‘hiding behind the sofa’ performance. Every time we got the ball, we looked to string a few passes together and create something. Much better than just hoofing it clear. And as long as Ange is in charge then we have to realise that this is how he will set us up to play. Personally, I hope he’s here for years!
Domestically if we play like we played tonight we will batter just about everybody. I bet Dundee Utd are hoping that we don’t take it out on them, again!
Celtic have now completed 20 competitive fixtures this season, winning 13, drawing 2 and losing 5. With 54 goals scored and 24 conceded.
As for the voting, my thanks as always to the 61 who emailed me their variety of choices (one voter nominated just one player). Of the 16 players who took to the field, only one failed to register a single vote. Poor David Turnbull. Yet how could that be, given this from P67s lead article on CQN today – “David Turnbull shone after coming on as one of four Celtic substitutions made just after the hour”? Hmmmmmm, I can only deduce that P67 forgot to vote 😉
The total votes cast for each CELTIC player with my own choices asterisked are as follows –
Hart: 5
Juranovic: 1
Starfelt: 40
Jenz: 4
Taylor: 5
O’Riley*: 38
Hatate*: 31
Mooy: 2
Abada: 5
Kyogo: 2
Maeda: 2

Giakoumakis: 1
Haskabanovic: 2
Jota*: 42
Turnbull: 0
Abildgaard: 1

And so, following perhaps the closest race this season the players receiving POINTS for the game against Real Madrid are –
Jota – 5 pts
Starfelt – 4 pts
O’Riley – 3 pts
Hatate – 2 pts
Abada, Hart and Taylor – 1 pt each (I don’t do fractions!!)

And so, after 20 games the overall standings are as follows –
45 points – Hatate
34 points – Taylor
31 points – Jota
24 points – Carter-Vickers
22 points – Jenz
19 points – McGregor
16 points – O’Riley
14 points – Abada and Mooy
13 points – Giakoumakis and Kyogo
12 points – Juranovic
9 points – Welsh
8 points – Bernabei
7 points – Haksabanovic
6 points – Ralston
5 points – Forrest
4 points – Hart and Starfelt
3 points – Maeda
2 points – Turnbull
0 points – Abildgaard, McCarthy and Siegrist

*Player Of The Month for October*
With a heavy schedule of 9 fixtures during October this should be really representative of our most consistent performers of late. October saw me being sent approximately 625 emails; I’ve never been so popular!
The Player Of The Month award is based purely on the TOTAL votes given to each player during that month’s games.
In 3rd place with a total of 175 is Cameron Carter-Vickers. Runner up with 260 votes is Greg Taylor. And the Player Of The Month for October 2022 with 279 votes and retaining the title he won in September is REO HATATE.

It’s back to league business this coming Saturday and a 3pm kick off for our home game against Dundee United. A chance to open up a 7 point lead for about 20 hours at least.
Hail Hail!!

CFC

BMCUW
Three very winnable games and a chance to add to our GD tally.
We are averaging 3.5 goals per game.
Without wishing to sound too dismissive about our opponents we should be looking at three comfortable victories.

Btw Motherwell away next Wednesday doesn’t appear to be scheduled for Sky coverage.

Will Motherwell go PPV?

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CFC

Good spot re Motherwell. Still,hopefully something will turn up!

Big Audio Dynamite

Meanwhile over on mental mental, the excuses are getting more bizarre by the minute.

Borna half-wit now claiming Borussia Dortmund aren’t in the same league as Napoli, Liverpool and Ajax! 👀

A thing of beauty

Farewell to Madrid. Had a great time and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Shame about not getting a ticket but we still enjoyed the atmosphere.
As for today, I shall be very interested to hear reports of the AGM. Very annoyed to be missing it. Twitter saying it’s either Lawwell or Sharon Brown for chairperson. How uninspiring and more jobs for the boys/girls.

Big Audio Dynamite

CFC, with 42 goals scored in our first 12 games, we may be on course to set a new scoring record this season.
We are on such an incredible run, it makes it hard to see how anyone can stop us.
To win the league, Sevco would need to match our consistency, and how many times have they been able to do that?
Think we will end up winning it at a canter.

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ATHINGOFBEAUTY

Glad you all enjoyed it,and didn’t let the ticket situation ruin it.

SeS

SteveNaive

Form last nite:

Alright buddy? Not having a go at fans going out to support Celts. Not at all.

Having a go at fans putting up with the same results … and mainly because the results are getting worse as each Season goes.. our worst ever points total…. whacked 5-1

I simply don’t see the point in winning 4 Trebles in a row, yet we can’t land a blow in Europe?!

You mention Madrid because you were doing precisely the same thing I was doing in Turin and London.

My point was/is some of us have seen this all before and nothing is improving … quite the opposite.

Glad you and all the others did us proud in Madrid – hope you and your bhoy get to see some better performances next time – looking forward to join my bhoy & ghirl in a game in Europe soon.

HH

madmitch

We make a lot of chances.
We have a low conversion rate.
We have a poor defensive structure.
We play open football no matter the quality of the opposition.

If the football Gods smile on us we win very big in the SPL
If the football Gods don’t smile on us we get humped in the CL.

Improve our conversion rate and improve our defensive structure and the Gods will have less influence.

If we work our recruitment to the max in Jan we may have a chance next season.
A young JD/VVD in the defence and a young VW at DM and it would have been a different game in Madrid.
Still the potential for schoolboy howlers but they would have added a lot to our performance.

Jobo Baldie

Good late morning, friends and a Big Happy Friday to all who post or lurk on here.

madmitch

Last 6 years in the CL / EL — we have become the City Break CSC.
Football has come secondary to the sightseeing / socialising / “culture”.
Great for the local economy / embarrassing as a football club.
CL draw becomes a case of where have we not been.

Many seem happy to take the beating so that they can get out the house.
Not us at our best — Children’s Crusade regarding the football.

maccargo

Quotes doing the rounds this morning from the gaffer….

‘I won’t let fans’ cash just sit in the bank’ – Ange Postecoglou makes Celtic transfer pledge as Kobayashi deal nears

ANGE POSTECOGLOU insists he’ll get value for money for Celtic fans when he makes signing swoops.
The Hoops boss has plans to bolster his squad in the January transfer window.
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Japanese defender Yuki Kobayashi is one of his main targets, with a deal close to being announced.
But Postecoglou revealed he is planning other raids and he is determined to repay fans for their support by making sure he doesn’t waste the club’s cash.
He said: “There have been a couple of other managers talking about the fact we spend a lot of money in the transfer market. But we have 60,000 people coming to our games every week.
“They don’t expect their money to be put in my pocket and just sit in the bank somewhere.
“My responsibility is to ensure their hard-earned gets invested wisely, so they can be proud of their football team. That is a responsibility.
“From the outside sometimes people think, ‘Ah, just spend money’. But there is a massive responsibility there.”
Postecoglou also insists he’s not worried about losing any of his best players in the New Year.
He added: “I don’t fear losing our players. I just see that as part of the process

“If you look at clubs who do well at Champions League level that are our size, what do they do? They develop players, sell them on and then replace them with better versions, hopefully.
“That is where I think our growth lies.
“I think it is part of the process. I don’t fear that.
“I think that has to happen for us to grow.
“We need to be bringing money in to be able to keep bringing better players to our club. I think it is an opportunity.
“If our players do well and move on to so-called greener pastures, if that is what they want, then there is an opportunity for me to improve the team.
“If they are going to leave us we are going to get some revenue in.”

madmitch

AP comments — the board level stupor continues.
He seems to be a man in a hurry and has a growth agenda in play.
Might explain the recent sniping from the Board friendly blogger community.

Interesting to see what changes January brings.

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MACCARGO

Ange is one impressive guy,and walks the walk.

(I hope though that he isn’t firing a warning shot across the bows!)

Big Audio Dynamite

Mitch, after the loss of just 9 goals in 12 matches, I’d suggest Ange (A defender) and John Kennedy (A defender) have some idea how to set up a defence.

It is utterly stupid to judge us against teams costing upwards of a billion pounds, when we are trying to compete with players costing a couple of million.

maccargo

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I read it as a message to us, the fans that some of our current favourites (Jota, O’Riley etc) will be moving on and be replaced by better. If nothing else, it’s fantastic succession planning.

Big Audio Dynamite

The Scottish champions get something like £3m for winning the league.

Big clubs today will spend that on shin guards!

GER57

Morning all.
There you have it. Ange has embraced the positives of being a feeder club. Don’t moan, buy in better, hopefully, when we sell someone. If the board are hoping to hive off cash, or simply boost the balance sheet, it looks like Ange is saying, “Bollocks to that!”
Has he already got the board’s backing for his plan? If so, it’s a first. Not even Big Jock ever got carte blanche.
Maybe the board recognise that we have an exceptional manager, so let’s fully back him.
Dream on, Gerry. Lol

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Got it!

Jason Denayer.

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GER57

We all know that nearly all of our players will move elsewhere. Except the ones who are rubbish and see out their contracts. Ange seems to be planning to use the money from any sales to reinforce the squad,not to cover the losses from failed projects.

It’s maybe not a huge step forward,but it is a step forward nevertheless.

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BIGAUDIODYNAMITE

Aye,and they don’t have the lenient referees and thug opponents that we have!

Big Audio Dynamite

BMCUW, exactly! Also sick to my back teeth reading what Ange cant-doesnt-wont do, from people who’ve probably never played a game of fives, let alone managed one of the biggest club’s on the planet!

madmitch

G57 @ 11.20

MON had carte blanche regarding the football budget.
Not sure if the budget was formula based — linked to the T/O — but he had total control.
PL came in as COO not CEO — I think because MON had the final say on where the football budget was spent.
Lucky bag of 4 signed on the last day of the 2001 window — MON made the call himself.

From memory as the wages went up the player spend went down.
2003 brought about the JMcF debacle / leaving do organised and the invite never came.
The budget formula was not upgraded — BQ doing his bit for DD — and MON welcomed us to the slow lane.

BR seemed to have carte blanche for 2 years regarding the football budget.
When he broke DD’s heart by returning the calls of the Chinese team things changed overnight.
PL was brought out of his box and told to make things difficult for BR.
So we lost JMcG / new RB / A.N. Other over the next month.

Gossip / scuttlebut / supposition / guesswork I know — but educated gossip / sc …

fan

The intolerance on here of differing opinions is growing.
With more CQN posters joining this blog the same behaviors are becoming the normal.
Disappointed as tolerance and reasonable debate on differing viewpoints was a highlight.

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FAN

Give them some time to adapt,mate. It’s a whole new ball game for them!

madmitch

BAD @ 11.15

Given our recent performances in the CL — my thoughts are that we have a poor defensive structure containing some of the best defenders in the SPL.

Our attacking play limits — in most SPL games — the chances that the opposition can make.
When it comes to the CL / EL it is a totally different outcome.

Opposition player budgets would not appear to be a driver in this set of poor performances — B/G is a good example where we were cut open time after time by players who dream of playing in the CL.

That to me is a poor defensive set up / poor decision making / inexperienced players.

It would appear that AP’s focus is on attack — brave in the extreme.
SPL defensive performances would appear to be based on a rock called CCV.

madmitch

BMCUW @ the wind up

Even SB — the mental right-wing Tory home secretary not the MF’er of some repute — would offer asylum to refugees from that particularly poisonous bowling club …

Call me Gerry

FAN @ 11:45

Spot on. 👍

HH

Big Audio Dynamite

Fan, when some only come on these blogs to cause disruption among us, should it be any surprise tolerance is thin on the ground?

Have you been reading CQN lately?

We have a great little blog here, full of like-minded people and harmony ..let’s see how long that lasts.

fan

Big Audio Dynamite
Not been on CQN recently.
Was a poster on CQN for years.
Left due to the viciousness of the cliques who converged as packs on anyone who did not follow the party line.
There has been a tendency on here recently to gang up on posters who they disagree with.
Coincidental that it’s happening with the arrival of CQN posters?
Bobby and Make have indeed created a very good blog so i hope it stays true to it’s origins.

Jobo Baldie

What I am about to say is very easily fixable by the poster in question. But personally when I see a long post willed with initials and/or abbreviations I assume it’ll be too hard work and scroll on by. Surely if anyone has something they want others to hear they can at least go to the bother of typing full names. I do appreciate that might take, what, 45 seconds longer but there you go.
Angry from East Kilbride!

Big Audio Dynamite

Ger57, given Ange’s record in the transfer market so far, maybe the board have decided it’s worth backing his judgement.
Can’t think of too many he has bought that we couldn’t make a profit on.
Question is, how many of them did Ange identify …all of them?

Jobo Baldie

Apologies and meant to clarify- I am not suggesting for one minute that anyone else would or should scroll on by. So it may be only me that connie be bothered. A blog open to all.

madmitch

JB @ 12.30’ish

Madness in the method — If I don’t use initials you will soon see how bad my spelling is …

FAN
I scroll by you wont get rid of him/them.

Just a point would we like to set up and play like Bodo Blink(name).Crowds of 4k+ population about 300k i think.Where am i going …if yes then we will have to start with our youngest trainees and bring in European coaches to teach them the basics and go from there.This was a suggesting made years ago by a Dutch coach to Tommy Burns i think.
According to a friend who watches quite a bit of Scottish footbal Championship as well its just punt and run in most games.

You have to start somewhere but the status quo is not working.

Fan

I am somebody who started posting here recently having previously posted on CQN. I did not post anywhere for 3 or 4 years having become very fed up with not just CQN but Celtic pages on social media too. (One ostensibly dedicated to pictures from Celtic’s past was often as learned as CQN or Sentinel Celts can be but could also degenerate into something altogether nastier than the tendency to cliqueishness of CQN).

I decided to give CQN a go again on the day of my most recent birthday- we beat Dundee United 9-0 on that day- and sometimes it can still be quite fun but…The leading articles are usually far better here, there is less – largely no- politics and possibly less of a tendency here for posters to cultuvate a ‘personality’ – people come on because they have something to say about Celtic. There is also less about betting on horses here – I like a punt myself and appreciate a tip but am not that fussed about reading post after post from the same person about his betting adventures. In short it’s a better mix of serious and offbeat chat here than it often is there.

Jimbo

Big Audio Dynamite

Fan, I’m not getting you, mate ..are you suggesting there is a clique on here?

And if your mere presence in a place was causing animosity, would you continue to turn up at that place?
If you had been asked (Nicely) to stop referring to people in a derogatory manner, would you just carry on?
You and I both know, some people aren’t on these blogs to talk to like-minded folk about football, they (Very few) are only on those blogs at the wind-up.

Btw, apologies if it was anything I said that brought about your response.

Peace, mate HH 💚🍀

Gordon64

AGM update
The next question is for Mike Nicholson as one shareholder asks: “Your predecessor claimed he’d never seen a document commonly known as a the five-way agreement, which allows other clubs to be treated differently. Have you seen it?”

MN I don’t see how it’s relevant in terms of the operation of our club.

Gordon64

Nothing on new chairman
Bankier is pressed on the process to name his successor but he won’t budge, and simply says there’s a search team underway and it wouldn’t be appropriate to comment on names or individuals.

Chris

Jobo Baldie
What I am about to say is very easily fixable by the poster in question. But personally when I see a long post willed with initials and/or abbreviations I assume it’ll be too hard work and scroll on by. Surely if anyone has something they want others to hear they can at least go to the bother of typing full names. I do appreciate that might take, what, 45 seconds longer but there you go.
Angry from East Kilbride!
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I’m glad you to see you feel the same about Madmitches abbreviations.
He does that shite on CQN constantly.
Let’s see if he changes tack and decides to show some respect to the people he wants to read the posts
As you said, it only takes seconds.

Rebus67

SC is a cosy club for a group of regulars. Flare ups are few and far between. Friendly disagreement is the order of the day, largely.

My views of uncertainty over Ange’s football philosophy are either tolerated or ignored, perhaps both. That should not be underestimated!

Concern is evident when a regular or his/her relatives have health issues. To me, it is like dropping into your local for a chat or a listen.

As SC grows, and it will, these attributes will be challenged. CQN is not the same as it was in the first few years of its existence. Few, if any blogs, retain their original objectives/values as they become bigger.

What can be done? Nothing, that I can see unless membership is limited, and who wants to contribute to a closed shop.

I shall enjoy SC until…….I no longer do.

I like MM’s contributions although they can be frustrating. Either deliberately or subconsciously they are structured to a) draw you by asking you to solve minor puzzles, or b) create his/her brand, or both. Clever is it not!

Have a nice friday everyone and hats off to tge tremendous Celtic fans that streamed out of Madrid’s stadium, singing the praises of their team, after a mauling. What a family!

Rebus

Call me Gerry

FAN @ 11:45

Spot on. 👍

Edit : I initially read fan’s post as one of dismay at the way CQN has turned into a home for trolls (some posters ARE intolerable)…and a place where many decent posters have left. This leaves many to scroll through endless crap in order to seek the posts one wants to read/converse with. I’d hate to see this fine blog descend into a similar state, and I initially thought fan was describing such a scenario, which I agree with.

Having re-read the post, it appears that fan was more critical of the clique packs who gang up on a.n.other posters with differing opinions. With regards to the political angle, I agree that ganging up on those with different political views is unwelcome reading on a football blog,
I have less of an issue with numerous posters each addressing a poster individually and all having the same opinion that the said poster is displaying troll-like behaviour, designed to disrupt the blog.

I’m now not sure how I should read fan’s post 🤷‍♂️

Peace to all.

HH

Rebus67

Jimbo,

You must tell me the secret of not posting on blogs for 3-4 years! I have tried to desist but fail after a few weeks.

I have tried “punishing” myself myself by self imposed bans for posts that, subsequently, have been seen to be flawed. It is a start.

On other matters, Ange’s comments on outgoings and incomings, were interesting. Firstly, they fit with an aspect of his philosophy that I like. The system is the priority, not the individual player. This is the only hope that Celtic have of progressing in Europe. Of course, a related issue is whether his system is tge correct one.

Secondly, I look forward to seeing him sell Jota and bring in a better player!

I think MM’s earlier assessment was on the money. Sort out the defensive structure and solve tge defensive midfielder issue, somehow. There may also be a need for another striker to deal with the conversion problem.

Thirdly, fourthly and finally,….did I detect some flexibility in Ange’s approach vs RM? Did he use 4213 rather than his bog standard 433? It looked like tge midfield was structured as Mooy and O’Riley behind Hatate with the latter acting as the main threat from midfield. No, must have been the Rioja.

Must get showered and dressed,

Rebus

Rebus67

BAD 1.08,

Good post.

Difficult to post while having a shower. Thank G this is not video!

Rebus

BMCUW

Yourself and Mahe have started something that we can all be thankful of here. I’ve always considered SC to an online supporters bus. Of course there will be disagreements over certain players and certain individual games. The cut and thrust of debate is a healthy thing…as long as the debate does not generate into personal abuse, then all is well. As for the hoots, I always consider it an honour to meet friends old and new. As supporters of Brother Walfrid’s club, we have a bond between us, that cannot be broken…either by the enemy within (The PLC), or by the enemy without (The Huns and their fellow travellers).

Hail Hail.

Bigrailroadblues

Good afternoon all from Shawlands.

Big Audio Dynamite

The Lions Rimshot, any chance of dropping in and letting us know you’re ok?

All the best 👍

The Star Above The Crest

If anyone wants a laugh, head over to CQN and have a read of the article. Apparently our miserable record of Champions League qualification was all part of a master plan to reach the Champions League in 2024. We were all just too stupid to realise it.

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