The Stench Of Filthy Lucre

Morning,all.

I think it’s fair to say that not too many of us on here are huge fans of international football. That might be because,as Celtic supporters we can take a peripheral interest in football as a whole,but rarely does it engender the same passion that Celtic do. 

Think about it. I surely can’t be in a minority of one that couldn’t give a monkey’s about how a former hero’s career progresses once he has walked through the door for the last time. I might make an exception for Henrik on that one,and possibly at a push,Stilyan. Apart from them,no. I don’t even wish them ill will. I’m just indifferent.

Sure,I’ll watch a match if it’s on in the pub. The same if I’m in the house and at a loose end. After all,I genuinely love the game. I remember watching Manchester City when they were the poor relations,not just in Manchester but in the game as a whole. I could watch Georgi Kinkladze all day,and how I wished we would sign him. Certainly he was within our reach,and would have lit up the stadium and the game as a whole,and we can all think of players like that in our time.

The Champions League? Well,mibbes aye and mibbes naw. When it really kicked into gear,probably its peak period of quality between the late 90s and the early 10s,it was a joy to behold. Now,so often,we see well-drilled teams intent on cancelling each other out. The fabulous Real Madrid Galacticos and the Guardiola-era Barcelona were just about the only teams I would make an effort to watch,the others I could catch on highlights elsewhere.

So,international football? I think the last time I attended a Scotland match was when Dalglish scored for us against Spain and Belgium in 1983. And we still didn’t qualify! I’m not sure that a friendly in Dublin on Good Friday counts,as that was due to restrictive licencing laws on the day. But I could usually be guaranteed to watch as much of the world cup as I could! Think about it,it’s the only football available for the best part of three months,with the best teams in international football slugging it out for the honour of holding that iconic lump of gold for the next four years? What’s not to like?

Well,for starters,FIFA decided to dilute the quality by increasing the quantity. There are now 32 countries in the finals stage-not that the increase has helped Scotland’s chances a great deal! Inevitably,that means that there are occasions where no-hopers will line up against the best in the world. And that rarely classes as a spectacle in my opinion. We want to see the best against the best,and around half of the initial 48 group stage matches hardly qualify for that. So that’s the first fortnight screwed then. I will say that I will increase my viewing towards the knockout stages of the tournament,but there are a lot of dead rubbers to contend with before that.

And then we come to the elephant in the room. The politicisation and sheer corruption at FIFA,first introduced by Joao Havelange nearly fifty years ago and then distilled into a fine art by his successor,Sepp Blatter. The man who funnelled development funds to certain countries and regions,and made sure that their delegates were beholden to him as a result. All very clever until he made the mistake of authorising those payments-most of which never made it to the causes intended-to be paid in dollars. The USA is none too keen on corruption being facilitated via its currency,and the FBI got involved. The biggest mistake though,might have been that the most corrupt of them all was the USA delegate,Chuck Blazer. The Untouchables and Al Capone all over again?

Sadly the new brooms brought in to clean up the stables soon proved to be little better-as we have seen. I have little doubt that they each went in there,in their innocence,with the full intention of doing what they were entrusted to do. Maybe it is true that money has its own smell,an irresistible scent that attracts the like-minded like bees round a honeypot. Now,we can’t blame the new regime for awarding the last two tournaments to Russia and Qatar. These were awarded in the death throes of Blatter et al. And we can hardly blame them,I suppose,for embracing the tournaments with their usual fervour-after all,they have TV rights and sponsorship deals to sell.

But I think there is reason to suggest that those in the seats of power at FIFA stick to their old mantra of keeping politics out of football. As they certainly have done by banning rainbow symbols,for instance! It is hardly their place to tell a sovereign nation how to run their affairs,after all.

All they ever had to do was offer anodyne statements of how much they were looking forward to another great tournament,secure in the knowledge that mistakes like this would never be made again. I mean.it’s not like you can reach the top of such an organisation without mastering the art of speaking at length and saying nothing?

Maybe Infantino should have thought of that,too late now. His speech was cringeworthy and embarrassing-to the extent that it achieved the opposite of its intention by highlighting the very things he was whitewashing.

A World Cup is a global event. It must never again be hijacked for political purposes,nor awarded by a small enclave of corrupted officials. And it should never again be played at this time of year,in the middle of a European season where most of the 831 players ply their trade. And certainly never in temperatures that most of us would cavil at even going for a walk.

They can make a start by having another go at cleansing those stables at FIFA. The stench is overpowering.

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Chairbhoy

Very interesting lead BMCUWPS, ended up watching all three matches yesterday, must do better today.

You are obviously right to highlight the corruption in FIFA but the FBI got involved because the USofA didn’t win a bid and the dirty money was undermining their hegemony – as Scots we have to be careful, we have our own Augean Stables and our own Club was not whiter than white when push came to shove.

Those without sin and casting stones come to mind.

Well it’s that time again, nil points so far…

Tuesday 22 November

Group C: Argentina v Saudi Arabia (10:00) ~ 3-0

Group D: Denmark v Tunisia (13:00) ~ 0-4

Group C: Mexico v Poland (16:00) ~ 0-0

Group D: France v Australia (19:00) ~ 4-1

Got to get some points today, surely Argentinan and France wins are nailed on – see if you can spot the team I’ve got in Twisty’s sweepstake;)

Hail Hail

Cosy Corner Bhoy

As a wee ‘ Jeezo, that’s some coincidence’ story ‘ I have been known to play golf of a Monday along with other members at Largs GC, whose ages range from mid 50s to the auld buggers, me and Fred in our 80s, only 3 days between us.
We sponsor Kidneys for Kids charity, the Heid Honcho’s grandson being a beneficiary.
I suggested we have a draw for the WC,£5 a pop, prize money to be decided by said HH.
Welll, did I not just draw Qatar and Japan ( we don’t have 32 hence some with two) , the bloody hosts and a team with a Tim!
I’ll no’ bloody win but I feel like a winner already, provided Daizen actually gets on the park, unlike big CCV yesterdays.
Any winners looking for another charity needing their pennies let me know and I’ll tell the HH ‘ Guid Bhoys they Cellic supporters😀😀
COYBIG.

Cosy Corner Bhoy

Forgot something… we’ve raised over £5000 among us! It’s surprising how generous you are when you’re at the Christmas party and pissed as a newt😀

Jobo Baldie

Good morning, friends. Its finally getting colder with lovely clear skies overhead.
A good lead, Bobby, which will resonate with many on here. Whilst I DO get passionate about Scotland on occasion it rarely reaches the levels experienced for certain Celtic games.
As for the latest World Cup, the USA v Wales games was the first one I was able to sit and watch properly and whilst it was in play it did actually feel like a “normal” world cup match. The proverbial game of two halves and the right score in the end, even though my first Acca bet relied on a USA win. Ho hum…
As for Chalmerbhoy’s competition (thanks again for organising this) I think I’ve started with 2 correct outcomes and 1 correct score but I’d need to scroll back and check. For today’s games I’m predicting –
Argentina 4 Saudi Arabia 0
Denmark 2 Tunisia 0
Mexico 1 Poland 2 (to be the first sort of surprise of the tournament)
France 3 Australia 0

Prestonpans bhoys

Yeah the first week WC is usually uninspiring, watched second half of Qatar game, mince.

Nearly missed the plane back from Gran Canaria yesterday, the local express bus was anything like a express😵 and its bloody freezing here too😱

Leggy

Morning all,

Breaking News ####

An announcement this morning, has just been made, stating that the Shipbank Shipwrecks have gone into Liquidation and their forthcoming fixture has now been cancelled.

An insider, who does want to be named ( Known locally with the initials BRRB) and is currently representing Scotland at the National Jakeathon Awards in Blackpool, ( Where incidentally he is a 10 time Champion and Lifetime Achievement winner) explains,

“ Yes the SS have been Liquidated but I have some good news, A new Company has been set up, now called the LL.

The Laurieston Lunatics will commence drinking on Saturday 26th November at 1.00 pm. The venue is the Laurieston Bar Glasgow.

All ex Shipwreckers and new Lunatics are more than welcome and I look forward to seeing you there”.

“I as usual will supply the Buffet “.

I for one am shocked by this sensational news, but I will turn up on Saturday and seek an answer to the question everyone is asking ?

Is there a secret 2 way Agreement in place, and does Peter Lawwell not drink there ????

The Mystery continues ………………..

bada bing1

Unless I’m mistaken,Beale has been a manager for about 16 weeks?

CFC

b b1

Following the old adage about keeping an eye on the enemy, there are plenty grumbling on Hun media about Beale as contender to oversee their shitshow. 22 game managerial career-
9 wins(40%).

I think he’d make an excellent choice… for us.

Big Audio Dynamite

Beale in?

They certainly will be.

Chairbhoy

CCB @ 9:04 am,

Great job…

Hope you’re on the mend.

Hail Hail

SeS

Messi opens account VAR pen less than 10 mins gone

TBH if VAR does eventually cut out that grappling in penalty areas, it might be good for game.

The matter of consistency tho’…

Remember Juventus at Paradise in 2013 ?

Any Sevvie game … ever!

SteveNaive

Remember speaking to Gerry Creaney and asked him about Georgie Kinkladze. Said he was excellent on the ball but not a ‘team player’ Now I know that has different connotations to different people, Roy Keane, for instance, rather simplistically said he would have done Ronaldo’s running all day if he continued to score 25-39 a season. Anyhow, Gerry explained that once, playing centre for City in the old second division, he was being kicked lumps out of by the centre half. Being used to it having played for Celtic, it was a tactic he used to bring the centre half onto him and create space for himself behind. Then, when the opportunity arose, he would spin into the space for a chance. This didn’t happen until late in the game, at 0-0, and he is just mobile enough to capitalise. He comes short, ch comes with him he spins and the space is there. The bold Georgi runs onto it, picks it up and is flagged offside. Opposition drop deep and defend out the 0-0. City troop off with Gerry getting dogs abuse for not scoring.

Heeheehee…Keane not taking Souness’s pish at halftime! 🤣🤣🤣

Prestonpans bhoys

Yes that half time ‘chat’ between the two was very funny, think Keane was wrong though😱

PB…a pair of arrogant pricks but Souness is a Hun prick!! 🤣

madmitch

BMCUW — not quite buying it.

The WC needs global involvement.
Not just the usual suspects from Europe / three big teams from South America / African champions plus a plucky outsider.
How much of a WC would that be?

Best of the best — well put that idea into the context of the CL and it will be a long time before we would get invited back.
The search for football talent is now global — the world should be invited to the WC.

Consequently a 32 team WC is a good place to be.

Prestonpans bhoys

Saudi score 1:1

SeS

Saudi score 1-1

Game On @ The Qatarihad!! 😁

Prestonpans bhoys

Saudi up 2:1

Oh deary deary me! 2-1 Saudi!!

SeS

some dig

A fine goal! Beautiful turn to leave the Argie defenders paying to get back in!! 😱😁

SeS

Saudi were at 30/1 when I stuck my 10/- on

bada bing1

Looks like the World Cup has just started boom

SES…did you use coins or break into the tin under the bed for an unused white note! 😉

SeS

McCaff – 😂

It’s amazing how the threat of a public stoning gives you an extra half a yard for that last ditch challenge!! 😱

bournesouprecipe

Michael are you taking them away ?, now you must run their club with ‘dignity’

Pick a big name , any name Giovanni Van Bronkhurst was a long unemployed named short tenured, short manager? He did an incredible job, but like many Rainjurz and Sevco big names was simply a depressed second best, to their nemesis from Parkhead.

Glaswegians were warned regularly during hurricane bawbag, to “watch out for falling masonry” . Much later , on the other side of the river, failing masonry became a lot more dangerous. They founded a whole new club, and let the establishment do the rest with the death the name , the facts and the history.

For a lodge of masons that stood to salute sunken Rainjurz , then piped in a whole new club, GVB is small potatoes. This is Scotland’s self entitled world champions of shame, the new owners of Padlocked FC , know no bounds and have unmarkable necks. These are the peepil who waited and waited and waited till the club was dead, and then stole the carcasse from other darksiders that didn’t wait long enough.

We have been warned at many junctures, many times through historical Celtic, to beware ‘the men in the bowler hats‘ . The ghosts of the past go up and down the only marble staircase in football still shackled to their ball and chain. Their societal Paisley Rd, puddle drinkers are for smashing George Square when they win, scurrying away down drains when they lose, but in Scotland we’ve learned, again there are immorally worse men, in proverbial hats.

The unseen fenian hand has played the FFP / FSR card , to trump FTP all day long. They still haven’t signed an expert in situ named manager to date., nor are they likely to. Wee Giovanni signing for the wrong Glasgow club was a shame, but to then go and sign for both of them was downright carelessness.

The gift that keeps on giving CSC

SeS

Awful collision there Saudi Defender absolutely took a knee to his jaw – accidental by keeper on his own player … stomach churning

Edit: defender now up walking thankfully- now stretcherec off

Cosy Corner Bhoy

BSR: I loved that !

Oh my god! A knee full in the face for the Saudi player from his own keeper at full stretch in the air to collect a high cross. That was a shocker!

I thought Argentina could have been contenders in this World Cup but they’ve been bang average!

Prestonpans bhoys

Saudi win😱😱

SeS

Wow, that is a shockeroonay

Glad I got a wee bet on but sad that I bottled it at 2-1 … still one for the memory bank …if not the account

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

That’ll be a few fixed odds accas down then. Football still has the ability to surprise,and surprise greatly.

Will Scaloni be the first managerial casualty of Qatar ’22? Is he about to be GVB’ed!!

madmitch

I have issues offering any support to the KSA — 1989 looms large in all of this.
However they played their hearts out — well organised / huge amounts of pace / great finishing.
Buying NU when they had this in their own backyard — not the best of forward planning.
They should have bought Carlisle and brought over half their squad.

SteveNaive

Matterface…’ every trick in the book being used here’…then sees the replay and backtracks for the next five minutes.
A dick of a man.

Danny Mac23

Argentina have just been Danny Macced.😁

Danny Mac23

36 games unbeaten,last team to beat them before today was Brazil then I get them in the sweep…

They can still qualify but not on that performance.

Chairbhoy

BSR @ 11:42 am,

Most excellent post, great read…

Still on nil point I see, the upset of the day gone, so the Tunisia prediction maybe a bit rash, on the other hand…

Hail Hail

Frodshambhoy

BSR – excellent post 👏👏

Hands up if you had anything but an Argentina win in the Chalmersbhoy predictor thingy.

Afternoon all.

Leggy @ 9.21am

Brilliant. 🙂 🙂

The Real McCoy

Leggy-
When you return to the Saltmarket you can always be known as THE Shipbank Shipwrecks 🤷🏻‍♂️
As for the Laurieston Lunatics- please feel free to raise your glasses to King Billy 😱
THE King Billy 🏆
The statue of Caesar, one William McNeill ,
will be unveiled on Saturday, November 26th at Bellshill Cross . 1:30 pm .

‘If ever a man was made for a specific club, it was Billy McNeill and Glasgow Celtic…. His heart was always at Parkhead.’

HH 💚🍀

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

LEGGY

When the Laurie Loonies-Lorra Loonies?-meet up,SOLKITTS and I will be with you in spirit. We have very fond memories of The Lauriston in Ardrossan from oh so many years ago.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

MADMITCH

I take your point about bringing the game to the wider world,but today’s result not withstanding-Argentinal lost 1-0 to Cameroon in 1990-there are way too many teams there just to make up the numbers. If 32 is too many and 16 not enough,the alternative is a highly unsatisfactory 24.

How would that work? Eight groups of three,top two into four groups of four or a last 16? Hardly-eight teams would only be there for two games! Four groups of six followed by a last 16 or even last eight? Or the dreaded six teams of four,meaning four “best losers”? So we are stuck with the 32 then. And teams just making up the numbers.

Rather than get annoyed about it,I’ve decided to do what I do with the EPL. Watch a game that catches my interest,otherwise stick to MOTD. Works for me,if not exactly what the sponsors would wish for-not that it has done the EPL any harm so far!

How are you enjoying the site so far? A bit more relaxing than our old one,I hope?

JimmynotPaul

Thoroughly enjoyed the Denmark v Tunisia game, incredible that it ended goalless.
2 hand balls, for either country, Scottish refs have been awarding penalties for these types of hand balls ( except Tynecastle ) Ref said no twice.
The second one, incredible theatre, 90 plus 4 , VAR asks ref to look at handball, he sticks by his guns and says no pen, ( Denmark ) Tunisia fans celebrating like crazy, at that decision, rightly so.
The ref was consistent and that’s all I ask, if first hand ball wasn’t a pen, to Tunisia, then second one, not a pen, either. Fair play to the ref.
A couple of great saves, by the keepers, an incredible miss by Denmark, header against the post when almost on the goal line and two ” goals ” that were then correctly disallowed for offside, all added up to a cracking 0.0.

big packy

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, not interested in the world cup my team are not in it, sad day today exactly 12 months since joans mum died, she is mostly upset because warrington hospital would not let her and her sister in to say goodbye and hold her hand ,,she died alone, the hospital said sorry but because of covid they had to stick to the rules, my god could they have not waved the rules for a feckin hour, so a 90 year old woman could see her daughters for the last time??

Must admit group stages are exciting.

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