Groundhog Day


Yes,I know that was yesterday. But hey-that’s all in keeping with the whole idea of Groundhog Day anyway,innit? I know I keep harping on about Scotland’s unique interpretation of VAR,but we really do seem to be stuck in a similar doomloop of different day same old shit. Or doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results-Einstein’s definition of insanity. 

I know it’s driving me up the wall,at least. And I’m sure I’m not alone. Last night saw TRIFCo record their FIFTIETH domestic match without conceding a penalty kick. Another of those statistical anomalies,like not conceding one at home since September 2019,or Tavpen on the brink of his own fiftieth,scoring fifty penalties from sixty attempts. Not bad when he only has around 250 league appearances. 

But the most annoying thing about this penality non-concession isn’t that it flies in the face of any known statistical analysis. It is that it transcends the laws of the game,dependent as it is on clear and obvious errors. The very thing that VAR,we were told,is designed to eradicate. The laws of the game are quite clear about handball,and when it constitutes an offence. 

It says nothing about the wearing of a certain jersey entitling a player to turn the game into his own version of netball. Or pat-a-cake. All so reminiscent of when Davie Weir was a protected species allowed to do anything he bloody well pleased once he crossed that white line. 

At least the referees and media had the excuse then of being shit scared of Sir Walter of Cardigan. What’s their excuse now?

MADMITCH raised an interesting theory the other night,post-match. Now,despite allegations in the past about one of our top whistlers having a gambling problem,I mention it without suggesting any credence therein. That bearing in mind that it was late on in the match,and Hearts were already three down,there was no footballing reason whatsoever for not awarding the penalty. Especially not with the VAR back-up available. That leaves a dwindling number of other possibilities for not doing so. One being that the ref simply doesn’t want to be the one to break such a record-breaking sequence. The other being related to gambling. 

Say it ain’t so,Joe.

Our last few games have passed fairly trouble-free re VAR,but the length of time being taken to verify the goals,surely more than is normal elsewhere,suggests that officials are rewinding the reels checking for the most spurious of reasons to disallow. In total,around SIX minutes elapsed between our goals being scored on Wednesday night,and the match being restarted. That hardly encourages our players to score as many goals as possible,especially in such miserable conditions. They’d be out there all bloody night!

Of course,we look at the big problem with VAR being that it affects us the most. Well,certain interpretations do,for sure. But when teams are regularly down to ten men against the huns,it not only affects their chances in that match. It affects their chances in all of the matches he misses through suspension. There is a lot to play for in our Premier Division,regardless of what you might think. Yes,we are only interested in winning it,but but other sides have other things to occupy their minds. For instance,including 

Finishing in the top six. 

Europa League or Conference qualification.

Avoiding automatic relegation from finishing bottom.

Avoiding the relegation play-off spot from finishing second-last. 

Even,at a push,achieving the second Champions League spot. 

Yet rarely is a word said by an opposing player or manager after suffering more injustice,Davidson on Saturday being something of an outlier. The more it continues,the more we know it will continue. And our club is happy,along with the others,to say SFA to the SFA on the subject. 

Anyway,changing the subject to round off the article,I can’t help but mention-last time,honest!-the recent transfer window. EPL clubs managed to spend over £800m in what is traditionally only a topping-up period,one to cover unexpected injuries,etc. Chelsea alone spent nearly half of that,their own total being considerably more than the combined totals of the other top four leagues. European clubs and associations are up in arms about the widening gulf,despite much of the outgoings heading their way. They view it as an increasing trend that is pricing them out of the market entirely.

I can see their point. Let’s face it,in Scotland we know all about England pricing us out of the market while poaching our finest talent. I didn’t hear much support for our plight back then,merely contempt at how far we had fallen in such a short time. The president of La Liga will presumably be heard with more attention than we were offered back then,and while I empathise with the problem,I find it hard to sympathise when we were ignored for so long. 

It does though pose a potential problem for us. We have had to adapt in recent years to living in the shadows of the big-spending behemoths down south. Spread our scouting tentacles into new markets,or to look for undiscovered jewels hiding in plain sight just waiting to be polished. Inside only the last eighteen months alone,we have raided Japan,South Korea,China,Canada and Ireland as well as Argentina,The Netherlands and Russia. Etc. We have delved into reserves at Spurs and Benfica. We even went to the lower leagues in England to sign a player who had only recently spent six months without a club at all! 

But what if the clubs elsewhere decide that they can no longer operate in the markets they once enjoyed-and harvested to great effect? That the giants in the EPL can outbid them at will is obvious-but the gap is such that they can be outbid too by the likes of Wolves and Fulham. Brentford-Brentford,ffs!-had the signing of Mudryk all but finalised in the summer till they unaccountably balked at the €30m demanded. Chelsea had no problem paying well over three times as much a few months later. 

You see where this is going? If European clubs have to look for different buying opportunities,it is bloody nailed-on that they will be mowing our lawn. Where does that leave us? It would be nice,it would be ideal,if the answer was to be found at Lennoxtown,but far too rarely has that been the case. I think the total stands at four since the emergence of James Forrest in 2010. Should we be concerned,as the European clubs have themselves become concerned? Damn right we should. 

So,Groundhog Day? When it came out thirty years ago,it could have applied to us as Celtic fans. Every day was Groundhog Day. Go to a match-more disappointment. Pick up a paper-more anger and  more barely concealed mirth from the journos. Go to work-more ribbing from colleagues. And the same in the pub. And here we are,thirty years later,with our own updated version. Worrying about the bottomless wallets down south and how the knock-on effects will affect us. And referees not giving a tuppenny damn about the rules or their reputations. While the journos lap it up. 

‘‘Twas ever thus…
Above article by BMCUWP

Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
February 3, 2023 12:15 am

JOBO POTY update.


Good evening, friends.
A bit of a game of two halves last night but job done, and convincingly at that. I’ll make it easy on myself with this particular report and just go straight to the voting, except to say that in my own humble opinion last night was Daizen Maeda’s best game in the hoops (so far), never fading out of the game and running as strongly in the final minutes as he did in the first.
Domestically we have now played 28, winning 26, drawing 1 and losing 1, scoring 89 and conceding 18.
Thank you to the 65 who emailed me with their 3 nominations. The total votes cast for each player with my own choices asterisked are as follows –
Hart: 0
Johnston: 1
Carter-Vickers: 10
Starfelt*: 5
Taylor: 42
McGregor: 19
Hatate: 37
O’Riley: 2
Jota*: 17
Kyogo: 13
Maeda*: 49

Subs (no votes for any of them): Mooy, Abada, Oh, Turnbull, Iwata

And so the players receiving POINTS for the game against Livingston are –
Maeda – 5 pts
Taylor – 4 pts
Hatate – 3 pts
McGregor – 2 pts
Jota – 1 pt

And after 34 games the overall standings are as shown below –
73 points – Hatate
49 points – Carter-Vickers
43 points – Jota
42 points – Taylor
37 points – Mooy
34 points – McGregor
29 points – Kyogo
28 points – O’Riley
26 points – Abada
23 points – Maeda
22 points – Jenz
15 points – Haksabanovic
13 points – Giakoumakis, Juranovic and Starfelt
10 points – Ralston
9 points – Bernabei and Welsh
8 points – Forrest and Johnston
7 points – Hart
5 points – Turnbull
4 points – Kobayashi
0 points – Abildgaard, Iwata, Lawal, McCarthy, Oh, Siegrist and Vata

Our next game is on Sunday with a High Noon kick off away to St Johnstone.
Hail Hail!

February 3, 2023 12:17 am
February 3, 2023 12:17 am
Margaret McGill
February 3, 2023 12:55 am

Punks a Tony Phil
Old Firm veja doo all over again

February 3, 2023 1:23 am


I respect your indefatigability.

But You’re barking up the same ol tree.

February 3, 2023 1:26 am

Is there Life on Mags?

Has Britannia lost her Crown?


Margaret McGill
February 3, 2023 1:39 am

CFC…partying like its 1888. 🙂

Uber Feenyin
February 3, 2023 6:34 am

## News just in ##

A recent review of the 2001/2 season shows that VAR missed some questionable offsides and other major issues.

These failures in Scottish refereeing have proven to disadvantage certain clubs.

Namely one particular goal.

When imposter Henry Larsson nutmegged our glorious goal keeper at 50 mins in, he clearly played himself offside 🤷‍♂️ if you’re that fast, you MUST be subject to the offside rule like everyone else, not pointing any fingers, Kyogo. 👊👊

He played the ball, and then was so fast that he was in front of the glorious rangers defence, making him offside. [Sic Stuart Dougall]


The only solution is to remove all Celtic titles achieved since 2002, and reward them all to our glorious Glasgow Sevco. 🤷‍♂️

This has been an Uber Tim, reporting from a dark and dusky North Lanarkshire outpost. Back to you in the studio, Senor Michael 😁 🎤

February 3, 2023 8:00 am

Morning all!
Bear with me on this, it is a bit of a ramble…clubs don’t speak out when they’re disadvantaged by VAR decisions against TRFC and we don’t understand why not.
TRFC seems to have benefited by quite a margin in comparison to everyone else but most definitely in comparison to us. Plucking figures out of the air for the sake of this post, say TRFC have won 5 games they maybe should have drawn, that gives them 10 extra points. So remove the 10 points and that puts them on (a revised total of) 42 points.
Third placed Hearts (currently on 38 points) got the VAR advantage over us but we still won so no change , still behind us and them in 3rd.
Typically, all other clubs are in a couple of dogfight situations, only two or three points separating three or four League positions. Many of these clubs have benefitted from VAR versus us and it’s cost them versus TRFC. It evens itself out so a bad decision in one game v TRFC is remedied by a good one versus us (I think?)
Nothing changes the League positions as it is all swings and roundabouts below TRFC.
The anomaly is Celtic. VAR is being used every game by refs to punish or attempt to punish us – against every notion of competition, every ideal of sport. We are being hammered by VAR – every game it hangs over us like the Grim Reaper. We’re waiting on a decision to kill us. As Mitch kinda pointed out yesterday we’ve been lucky so far but…
So, whilst VAR has been used against us we’ve been better than it and better than the refs want us to be, other than the last TRFC game where Globetrotter Goldson got lucky again we’ve won every game despite VAR calls against us.
As I said at the start of the post it was a bit of a ramble, so apologies for that and the made up stats but just trying to make sense of why other clubs seem satisfied to let this thing run without anyone prepared to call it out!
So what’s next? Well, we can now go down the Stevie G 80 Minute Game Theory or the MM (Mad Martindale not Mitch! 😁) Pounds For Points Theory and claim the points which would alter our League position! So let’s add the 2 points, saved by Globetrotter Goldson, to our total and we move up to 63 points to their adjusted 42! We only need to win another 8 games and it all over…when was the last time we won the League before the split!

February 3, 2023 9:25 am


Groundhog day / season — regarding the CL I would suggest not.
The rise of Napoli shows that the old order is on the way out.
B/L — below the BM behemoth — is a crap shoot with history going out the window.
Things are changing — we need to tag along for the ride.

If we can get ourselves comfortable playing in Europe then I think we will have a great chance to go forward if we manage to qualify.. The SPL and its familiarity stifles our ability to deal with the new / the different.

Chicken and egg situation — no experience generates failure / failure restricts our experience.
I would put serious money on the table to bring Euro teams to P/head for “friendlies”.
It would appear to be working for the B Team and we need to broaden our horizons.

Being SPL flat track bullies with TFOD2.1 living in too many heads rent free is not the future.

February 3, 2023 9:26 am


Where’s the incentive for a team to be competitive against the huns,take the game to them,if they know they will get a player red-carded,who will miss the next three games?

Big Audio Dynamite
February 3, 2023 9:36 am

McCaff, Brendan’s team of 2017?

Iirc, there was still 8 or 9 games to go.

February 3, 2023 9:43 am

Football and gambling …

Not sure where to start — too much money now involved so stuff must be getting tried.
The best we can now hope for is that the various actors / betting syndicates cancel each other out.
Too much money is at stake / too much money involved.

Regarding the UK football and gambling — it would appear to be happening in plain sight.
In my lifetime I have seen the re-starting of fix odds coupons after they were stopped in the late 50’s? due to suspicions that matches were being rigged. So the issue has legs and history.

Then you have L/pool 1 — the 94 BG farrago where the English legal system’s failures were laid out for the world to see.
Plus the L/pool 2 scenario — the throw in caper that is now a staple on the after dinner circuit.

EPL — players and football gambling — huge efforts to stamp it out.
SPL — players and football gambling — big laugh / boys being boys / Swally and his cheeky chappy stories.

Then you have the SPL banker angle — people down south using us and the TFOD1.0 / 2.1 to pad out their accumulators.
When I worked down south — if either of us or our friends in Govan did not win then the department gamblers were over asking what had gone wrong and telling me how much money it had cost them.

It is stuff like this that gets your imagination going — tight league and we both fail to win on the same weekend?
20 years ago so I have don’t remember the detail but I am sure that it has happened.

Then you have the nickel and dime angle with the comedy bets — sending’s off / penalties for and against / first goal.
These situations are very much in play at the moment — worth a watching on a number of levels.

If it doesn’t make sense then you have to ask why?

Craig 76
February 3, 2023 9:47 am
February 3, 2023 10:50 am

Good morning to all Bhoys and Ghirls.

Hope you all have a great day and ….,,,

Be careful out there !!!!!

RenkoCSC. 🍀🍀🍀

February 3, 2023 11:13 am

Bobby…”Where’s the incentive for a team to be competitive against the huns,take the game to them,if they know they will get a player red-carded,who will miss the next three games?”
That’s the question the whole of Scottish fitba from top to bottom, including the media, should be asking!

February 3, 2023 11:25 am

BAD…just checked, 2016/17 we finished 30 – THREE ZERO – points ahead of Aberdeen! 39 points ahead of the Bastard Son of Charles Green!
That reminded me of an old song, it’s never too early for Half Man Half Biscuit is it 😁…

February 3, 2023 11:47 am


“Wotcha mean,you haven’t found anything? Move the lines,photoshop it,use an old clip,ffs! Phone Crawford!!! Sod it,I’ll say it’s offside anyway,who’s gonna complain?”

Jobo Baldie
February 3, 2023 12:01 pm

Bobby – if you like you could put up a link to that previous “Celtic VAR issues” leader and I’ll copy over my game by game summary. 3 or 4 games ago I decided just to do very brief notes but perhaps it might interest some.
Whether we like it or not (and I still detest all things VAR) the fact is that the Ibrox game is the only game so far where VAR has affected the outcome for Celtic. And that’s assuming we would have scored the Goldson penalty so even that isn’t a given!
(Edit: the penalty we were awarded against Morton for the Efe handball was really harsh. We scored to open the scoring but I don’t think the final outcome was directly affected by that)

February 3, 2023 12:34 pm


The penalty against Efe was certainly harsh,but not as harsh as the one awarded against us when Morton knocked us out the league cup!

I’ll find the VAR article and post a link to it.

February 3, 2023 12:35 pm
Jobo Baldie
February 3, 2023 12:44 pm

Thanks Bobby.
So for anyone interested, my own summary of the VAR decisions from our 16 games to date can be read here…

February 3, 2023 12:52 pm

JOBO et al

While I was flicking through the site archives there to find the VAR link,I had a look at my article following the World Cup final. It also contained some brief comments about our game on 20 December against Goodwin’s Aberdeen.. One sentence about the latter stood out.

“Third in the table,and in-form with five wins from their previous six,that home side simply parked the bus.”

Less than SIX weeks later,he was sacked. Bloody hell.

Big Audio Dynamite
February 3, 2023 2:26 pm


Half Man Half Biscuit works at anytime of the day 👏

Sol Kitts
February 3, 2023 3:01 pm

If the day ever comes when we get to hear the conversation between on-field ref and VAR, all they’ll do is switch off the link to the stadium speakers and tv studio and claim equipment failure prevented it being heard, similar to the camera “failing” when Kent punched Scales.
The only way it will work is to keep them away from the off switch.

February 3, 2023 3:42 pm

You don’t get to be racist and Irish
by Imelda May

You don’t get to be racist and Irish
You don’t get to be proud of your heritage,
plights and fights for freedom while kneeling on the neck of another!
You’re not entitled to sing songs
of heroes and martyrs
mothers and fathers who cried
as they starved in a famine
Or of brave hearted
soft spoken
poets and artists
lined up in a yard
blindfolded and bound
Waiting for Godot
and point blank to sound
We emigrated
We immigrated
We took refuge
So cannot refuse
When it’s our time
To return the favour
Land stolen
Spirits broken
Bodies crushed and swollen
unholy tokens of Christ, Nailed to a tree
(That) You hang around your neck
Like a noose of the free
Our colour pasty
Our accents thick
Hands like shovels
from mortar and bricklaying
foundation of cities
you now stand upon
Our suffering seeps from every stone
your opportunities arise from
Outstanding on the shoulders
of our forefathers and foremother’s
who bore your mother’s mother
Our music is for the righteous
Our joys have been earned
Well deserved and serve
to remind us to remember
More Blacks
More Dogs
More Irish.
Still labelled leprechauns, Micks, Paddy’s, louts
we’re shouting to tell you
our land, our laws
are progressively out there
We’re in a chrysalis
state of emerging into a new
and more beautiful Eire/era
40 Shades Better
Unanimous in our rainbow vote
we’ve found our stereotypical pot of gold
and my God it’s good.
So join us.. ’cause
You Don’t Get To Be Racist And Irish………..

big packy
February 3, 2023 4:06 pm

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, just came n to say goodbye ghuys and ghals, ill be 70 0n sunday if god spares me, ive been on this site from the beginning, loved every minute of it, made some great friends not going to mention you all, you know who you are, and that includes you SOL😎 I used to talk about the lions to JIMTHETIM53 because we are the same age, but you ghuys and its not your fault are that bit younger, ive posted some true stories lately and some quiz questions, nobody took a blind bit of notice ,so that tells me big jim packy as mcaff calls me im too fecking old😎 wee joan has organised a wee party for me on sunday at the queen of hearts pub in murdishaw runcorn, FRODSHAM BHOY you are most welcome to come along bring you guitar because im bringing my drumkit😎 BTW not just frodsham bhoy any tims no matter where you live are most welcome finaly no offence to anyone of you ghuys but the person id most like to see at the queen of hearts on sunday is JIMTHETIM53 probably wont happen but i live in hope,once again GNAGB you all have a great life,.another true story.hh.

Jobo Baldie
February 3, 2023 4:15 pm

big packy – happy birthday when it comes and I fully expect to see you still posting on here in the weeks and months after you turn 70! HH

big packy
February 3, 2023 4:32 pm

JOBO, thanks for that and thanks for the great work you put in to TPOTY,

February 3, 2023 4:41 pm

Queen’s Park have been ejected from the Scottish Cup after fielding an ineligible player against Inverness Caledonian Thistle, who will now face Livingston in the last 16.

Forward Euan Henderson signed on loan from Heart of Midlothian after the tie was initially postponed on 21 January.

Playing him in Tuesday’s rearranged tie, which Queen’s Park won 2-0, was contrary to competition rules.

Inverness will take on Livingston at the Tony Macaroni Arena on 11 February.

Queen’s Park president David Hunter said: “An error was made regarding the eligibility of a player who featured in Tuesday night’s game with Inverness Caledonian Thistle and we have accepted the SFA’s decision.

“It is a regrettable mistake. One we will learn from. Our team put on a tremendous display on Tuesday to win the tie and obviously today’s result is a hugely disappointing outcome. As upsetting as this matter is, it’s vital that we put this behind us quickly, move on and focus on our league campaign.”

February 3, 2023 4:44 pm

Have a big Happy Birthday on Sunday.
You share your birthday with Ronaldo ( the current one ) Neymar Jnr and Carlos Tevez.
I wouldn’t worry about folks not replying, it’s happens to us all.
It’s just the way of a blog.

big packy
February 3, 2023 5:01 pm

JNP cheers pal.H.H

Margaret McGill
February 3, 2023 5:22 pm

Big Packy
Geeza quiz
I’ll ace it! 🙂

bada Bing 1
February 3, 2023 5:22 pm

Ange absolutely blasting how GG went about trying to force his way out:

Ange on whether there was a chance of Giorgios Giakoumakis returning to the Celtic squad having not finalised a deal yet.

‘I’ll probably hear about it at the same time as you guys, maybe if you’re on Instagram you’ll hear about it earlier than me’

big packy
February 3, 2023 5:25 pm

MAGS, let me think about it😎

February 3, 2023 5:32 pm

Bada. 5.22.
Feel The Burn!!!!!
Don’t mess with Ange.

February 3, 2023 6:08 pm

big packy Hoopy Birthday for Sunday.

What time is kick off for your bash.
I’d love to pop in and buy you and wee Joan a half pint shandy to share to mark the occasion.
Problem is we are going to see Justin Moorehouse at the Lowry on Sunday evening so that might get in the way.

big packy
February 3, 2023 6:23 pm

FRODSHAMBHOY, 12=O CLOCK kick off, no excuses,😎😎

February 3, 2023 6:38 pm

Ange press conference with fan based media.
Very good.
Ange delighted with Kyogo and Maeda.
Oh not ready to start yet, maybe two weeks or so

February 3, 2023 6:40 pm

big packy

Wow what a fixture clash.
I will pop in. Looking forward to meeting you.

big packy
February 3, 2023 6:55 pm

FRODSHAMBHOY, likewise👍 i will be the one not wearing a rangers tap🤩🤩

February 3, 2023 7:00 pm

Through the EBT years ineligible players were fielded on a weekly basis deliberately and the SFA did nothing but encourage it. Smaller teams who make genuine mistakes are continuously punished by them as is the case here. Another prime example of the under the table deals performed for decadeß to suit one club. A sad situation with no end in sight Im afraid.

February 3, 2023 7:01 pm

Auldbhoy67. 7.00
I couldn’t agree more!

big packy
February 3, 2023 7:13 pm

FRODSHAMBHOY do you know where the pub is, come straight down from frodsham over the sutton weaver bridge, when you get to the roadworks, you will see a sign murdishaw, follow that then you will see aldi and the queen of hearts pub👍

A thing of beauty
February 3, 2023 7:13 pm

Let’s face it, you’ve had more comebacks than Sinatra so no doubt we’ll see you posting soon. Like JNP says countless posts from all sorts of different posters don’t get replies. No need to take it personally.
Ange has let GG and any other player that thinks they might not want to play for our club that he will move on very quickly and don’t be contacting him when it all goes to shit. Ok MATE 😂😂

February 3, 2023 7:16 pm

I do know the pub✅

Sol Kitts
February 3, 2023 7:21 pm

Big Packy
How can you be 70 on Sunday? You’ve been telling us all year that you’re 57.
Have a cracking day celebrating, I would be there if I could only find that satnav……😃
Tell wee Joan she’s got my permission to spoil you rotten.
Happy birthday when it comes. 🍺🍺🥃🥃🎂

February 3, 2023 7:36 pm


Congrats on your 70th. But you are a mere baby! I am 77 next Wednesday. I do not see what age has to do with posting on this site. Nor do I see why getting few to no responses to your posts should bother you. I frequently get no responses. Look at it this way: if you do not post, you will certainly get no responses.

See you in about a week.


big packy
February 3, 2023 7:47 pm

REBUS 👍 BTW love your posts, another true story👍

Highland Paddy
February 3, 2023 7:52 pm

3-2-2020… Auldbhoy67 @ 7.00pm

Your post totally vindicates my reasoning for ‘chucking it’ by paying into Celtic games at Parkhead after 25 years of it… The game in Scotland is bent beyond recognition in favour of a club that as of today is 10 years and 189 days old (Never ever let them forget that – I don’t) !

Like the chairman of Queens Park, I’ve no grouse with the expulsion if that’s what’s in the rules then nice to see The SFA enforce them – what a pity they didn’t for Rangers then and Sevco now though…

I’m really content with my decision although I do miss Parkhead a lot, but principals and all that….

But where it really gets me is that I now hate The Scotland International team (a team I had always wanted to win until the Sevco scenario unfolded and all the Doncaster and Regan skullduggery emerged) – because of The SFA and The SPFL and I was delighted when they failed to qualify for Qatar 2022 in the play off last summer – just to see Maxwell, Petrie, Dickson, Bryson, Doncaster et al fail was ‘beautiful’ – Jesus this is the country of my birth (Paisley) and I want them to fail and lose and I don’t see that mindset changing back any time in the near future either unless serious reform is going to take place and happen…

Trust me – This Scotland Lose and Fail admission doesn’t go down well about my shores, but when asked why by fans of Celtic, Sevco, Hibernian, Hearts, Aberdeen and Inverness, I give my full and true explanation and they also declare that they hate and detest The SFA and The SPFL also and they ‘see my point’ even if some don’t totally come fully on board with me…

Do these imbeciles at Hampden ever stop to think of the damage that they are causing to the game here and to supporters of every other club in their quest to protect Sevco and constantly subvert the rules for them !