Pleasures And Entitlements
I mentioned last week how important Sunday just gone was,and how it could have an important bearing on our entire season,based purely on it being the first of four particular matches in a fortnight. If we won it,which we did,it gave us the first trophy of the season. If we won the other three too,it sets us up very well indeed for the rest of the season to come.
But taking a slightly longer view,if we look to the schedule for our matches over the next calendar month,there are some vital matches due in that period. First up is an away trip to St Mirren on league duty,a match important not only for the three points available there but also to right the wrong of our only domestic defeat this season,and the only one in regulation time at all since our defeat at Ibrox at the start of Ange’s reign.
I think he has managed us for 78 matches,including 66 victories,7 draws and only 5 defeats,an incredible sign of consistency. In the next month,he has away league matches at St Mirren and Ross County,and home games to Hearts and Hibs,with a visit to Tynecastle in the cup. Win these,with the additional help of a wee breather for international duties along the way,and we go into our last eight league matches and a cup semi-final in a continued run of form and confidence sky high.
Our lead then would still be at least nine points,and the game to follow is against our closest rivals,the foe malign. Win that too and the lead is at least twelve points with only 21 to play for. Is it too much to hope that we can win the league before the split?
I think it probably is. Sunday will have had a demoralising effect on the huns,particularly the venomous fall-out from it. Rarely can their players have experienced such a vitriolic reaction from their own supporters,via their social media accounts and their columns in the national press. They have somewhat flaky foundations at the best of times,but the call from the stands just the other week to reaffirm their standards,foolishly demanding an improvement on their two trophies in eleven years,is likely to be just the start of a continuing rift.
Their fans are born and raised to the entitlement that they believe is bestowed simply by supporting the team that they do. They rarely look below the surface for what that entitlement,that success that they have ingrained from birth,is a result of. The hand-shakes in high places,deals done behind closed doors,loans arranged sub-rose and frequently off the books. Not to mention a casual disregard for the actual laws of both the game and the nation when it comes to paying the players in the first place.
No,no. Nothing must come between them and their birthright,the duty of all concerned to fill that trophy room and to maintain that sense of entitlement. Not even Jock’s decade and more of dominance could shake those core beliefs,nor the almost unbroken run of success since the arrival of Martin O’Neill at the start of the century.
Neither ,of course,could administration,liquidation and being thrown out of the Scottish pyramid system. So is it too much to hope that those six matches to come will change that? Indeed it is. Their demands for the big hoose to stay open,for the big trophy cabinet to remain full,will be as loud as ever. In fact,the clamour in the stands,bars,social media,will only grow as their timeline of failure grows along with it.
So those five matches,plus the one on 8th April,won’t be a death knell for them-they’ve had plenty of them in their time!-no matter how much we may wish it to be so. But there will be another nail in their coffin for every good result we achieve,and for every disaster they suffer. And what’s not to like about that?
Two years ago,we had finally seen the back of Neil Lennon,and were facing the fag-end of a disastrous campaign with a rookie caretaker manager. We were chasing our next managerial target,who ultimately led us up the garden path. We landed a manager of whom few of the support were aware,or even knew he existed. And the journey since has been a revelation!
So,they can have their unfulfilled sense of entitlement. They’re welcome to it. When any success is never enough,they are doomed to their life as they live it. I’m quite happy with the pleasures I derive from being a Celtic supporter,especially the ones which are gloriously unexpected.
And Ange has certainly delivered a few of them in his time,and all of them have been a pleasure. May there be many more of them to come.
Above article by BMCUWP
Much to the distaste of the Screws we ended the no-wash protest this morning. We moved to ‘B’ wing, which was allegedly clean.
We have shown considerable tolerance today. Men are being searched coming back from the toilet. At one point men were waiting three hours to get out to the toilet, and only four or five got washed, which typifies the eagerness (sic) of the Screws to have us off the no-wash. There is a lot of petty vindictiveness from them.
I saw the doctor and I’m 64 kgs. I’ve no problems.
The priest, Fr John Murphy, was in tonight. We had a short talk. I heard that my mother spoke at a parade in Belfast yesterday and that Marcella cried. It gave me heart. I’m not worried about the numbers of the crowds. I was very annoyed last night when I heard Bishop Daly’s statement (issued on Sunday, condemning the hunger-strike). Again he is applying his double set of moral standards. He seems to forget that the people who murdered those innocent Irishmen on Derry’s Bloody Sunday are still as ever among us; and he knows perhaps better than anyone what has and is taking place in H-Block.
He understands why men are being tortured here — the reason for criminalisation. What makes it so disgusting, I believe, is that he agrees with that underlying reason. Only once has he spoken out, of the beatings and inhumanity that are commonplace in H-Block.
I once read an editorial, in late ’78, following the then Archbishop O Fiaich’s ‘sewer pipes of Calcutta’ statement. It said it was to the everlasting shame of the Irish people that the archbishop had to, and I paraphrase, stir the moral conscience of the people on the H-Block issue. A lot of time has passed since then, a lot of torture, in fact the following year was the worst we experienced.
Now I wonder who will stir the Cardinal’s moral conscience…
Bear witness to both right and wrong, stand up and speak out. But don’t we know that what has to be said is ‘political’, and it’s not that these people don’t want to become involved in politics, it’s simply that their politics are different, that is, British.
My dear friend Tomboy’s father died today. I was terribly annoyed, and it has upset me.
I received several notes from my family and friends. I have only read the one from my mother — it was what I needed. She has regained her fighting spirit — I am happy now.
My old friend Seanna (Walsh, a fellow blanket man) has also written.
I have an idea for a poem, perhaps tomorrow I will try to put it together.
Every time I feel down I think of Armagh, and James Connolly. They can never take those thoughts away from me.
Just a wee reminder that there is a Mini hoot taking place tomorrow.
It’s in The Shipbank, Glasgow with a high Noon kick off.
Looking forward to seeing old, and possibly new faces there 🍺🍺🍺
Great article Bobby 👍
Good morning, friends.
Not disagreeing with your article Bobby but you’re maybe guilty of doing what I regularly do and try to predict how the table will look in 3 or 4 games time only to find my hopes were way too optimistic! If we can get to 16 clear before the break that’d be very nice though. Particularly as I have ANOTHER holiday on the horizon where I’m missing at least 1 of the post break fixtures!
p.s. 3 more sleeps… 😉
The whole NL2 train-wreck shows the scale of the issues we face — and shows how much AP has done to leave them behind and deliver a new agenda.
Our board are hopeless — excuse-mongers to the core rather than seekers of a better future.
DD aka the Irish Raj likes it that way as he just wants his money and is quite prepared to do nothing so that he gets it.
Not sure what his magic number will be — the £100mill current valuation is way off.
My thoughts are that he is holding out for £500mill so that his share will be worth £200mill.
He wants a real 100% lift over the money he has shelled out for shares over the years.
Inflation can be a terrible scourge to the very rich / asset intensive movers and shakers.
£500mill valuation — other numbers are available but I thought £300mill was too low.
Side tracked — I know I shouldn’t but …
80/81 Hunger strikes — how will history remember them?
The best they can hope for is an attention seeking death cult that eventually ended up with involuntary suicide bombs.
Not a good look — the double barrelled surnames of the bitter enders gives the game away.
Not looking for social justice — they are just looking for a kingdom to call their own.
Saudi Arabia vs Sandy Ireland — Discuss …
Defending your community is one thing — the issue with any form of armed force is knowing when to stop.
Attacking the forces defending your community to re-ignite long lost conflicts is something else.
A very valid point indeed,and one which,as I was writing it,I meant to avoid by stating that I wasn’t trying to wish my life away. Sadly,my typing rarely keeps up with my train of thought.
ATHINGOFBEAUTY goes f…..g ballistic any time I even hint at a score prediction. In life,as well as on here. Those who have met her know why I try to avoid that,I wind her up enough as it is. So please don’t consider the above as me suggesting that we will win all of those matches. Merely that IF we do,I think even the most cynical amongst us,battle-hardened by dragging defeat from the jaws of victory so often in the past,can afford a moment of whimsical dreaming.
I’ve got my fingers,toes and eyes all crossed for just that.
Thanks for posting Bobby’s diaries and keeping his memory alive. You are continuing a fine tradition,begun by ARD MACHA all those years ago.
Thank you for posting diaries.
MADMITCH if as you say that Dermot Desmond is looking for a payout £500 Million for his shares,I would give him nothing ,what has he done for our club ,he hasn’t spent a penny on badly needed upgrades inside or outside Celtic Park ,he might have put in a couple of bob up at lennoxtown ,as for other projects ie Barrowfield,the proposed Hotel,Ticket Office Museum,he is a Carpetbagger ,he doesn’t own Celtic same as McCann but the bunnett walked away with £45 million,of our money ,fucking con men the lot of them,and that includes Lawell.
“also to right the wrong of our only domestic defeat this season,”
A piece criticising hun entitlement has the above in it, which also sounds like entitlement! You can’t , nor expect , to win them all.
What was wrong about that game, was the inability to create chances with over 70% of the ball. They took the few they had, we could have played till the cooows come home and not scored.
Let’s be honest, you haven’t a Scooby what Mr Desmond’s intentions are.
Last week you had him trying to undermine the manager.
Still trying to introduce the idea the board are working against the manager?
Too obvious, mate!
You’re clearly hurting very badly.
Correct,but as I said in my response to JOBO,I was aware of that when I wrote it. I just forgot to write my get-out clause.
Maybe DD stole MM’s burd. Or worse,spilt his pint.
TGM, so blindingly obvious.
Bobby – on the issue of not wishing your life away I’m reminded of a workplace conversation I overheard a few years ago, on a Tuesday morning –
“Oh,how I wish it was Friday”
“Hey Bob, you shouldn’t be wishing your life away!”
“Aye, OK. Well, I wish it was LAST Friday!!!”
Good bloody answer!
If he wants to spend his life pretending to be a Celtic supporter that’s fine by me.
I’ve always thought the reason for the abbreviations was that he can’t bring himself to type the full name of Celtic legends.
Good article M.
I hope the young lad is well BAD.
The Gombeen man, he is mate ..thanks!
In the absurd world of the dance that is Scottish football you never can tell.
but the dance is entertaining to watch.
As we are about to better every relevant record in Scottish football, including winning most trophies, things will continue to get more hysterical in the blue half of the divide.
Add in the news Ange is here for the foreseeable, and you can see why many are unable to contain their venom. Just what is it they have to look forward to? Maybe stopping a treble now and then? Oh glorious!
There just isn’t enough jelly and ice cream in the world. 🍧🍧🍧
Tb10 @ 10.01
Very rough cut numbers — the £500mill valuation for the club would mean that DD would get £200mill’ish for his 37% holding ion the club plus the bonds / special shares that he owns / controls.
Not sure how much DD has invested in the club?
1994/95 — Original FMcC share sale / issue?
1999 — Buying out most / all of FMcC stake when his 5 years was up.
2001 — Rights issue to pay for the splurges to get us noticed by the EPL.
2005 — Emergency rights issue to keep the bank happy after MON’s squad stagnation plus £7mill for L/town.
Consequently I don’t have a number for the scale of DD’s investment in the club.
DD is not a charity / an easy read but he will want to get his money back plus a real return.
Our current £100mill valuation will not allow this to happen — 20 years of inflation will have taken its toll.
That is why I think games are getting played regarding public statements — to repeat DD is not an easy read.
His chat about him not wanting to sell / his family falling in love with us is just that — cheap words.
All the interweb scuttlebutt / manoeuvring / subtle and not so subtle hints point to background conversations.
I think that the Fridge Magnet is in the frame regarding taking a stake in the club — most probably DD’s stake.
Which would mean that he would need to offer DD’s premium to the rest of the shareholders.
That is why I think that the valuation for the whole club will be way north of £300mill with £500mill being my best guess.
As always other values are out there — and might be more credible.
Bundle of laughs all round when DD suggested that he could sell his stake to his local Cage fighter.
Anything to drum up interest and improve the price.
Not sure that DD and the Fridge Magnet could happily co-exist at P/head.
DD is a gambler / arbitrage merchant / buy SPL cheap and sell EPL dear / timing is everything.
The Fridge Magnet has built a near global business out of organic growth / deal making / service / effective management teams.
Probably two big egos who do things totally differently — not a great fit around the same boardroom table.
I think that the Fridge Magnet sees the potential the club has going forward.
AP’s appetite / growth agenda has shown what is possible so more of the same would be the way forward.
I think DD just want’s out / quiet life / good money for his shares and more time on the golf course.
Just a case that good money to him is probably more than the club is worth at the moment.
Interesting to see how hardball the Fridge Magnet could play it if he really wanted to get involved?
Huge playbook out there to keep the share price low — if he wanted to.
Like all of us I think that he has emotional skin in the game and would want to play it very straight.
So DD sits and waits …
If he wanted to put his hat in the ring he could propose a £150mill offer for the club — 50% premium would shake the tree somewhat or he uses a proxy / nominee to build up a stake on the quiet nd then makes his move.
As always — any other thoughts on our future then please shout out.
BMCUW @ 10.30’ish
DD stealing my burd …
Unfortunately there were a few I couldn’t even giveaway.
That is what happens when you have a slow start to your knickin’ about career.
All about timing — never really had it — I had a step on the pitch on it but not off it.
Early on my wife presented a bit of a challenge.
Restraining order or an engagement ring …
Have you seen the price of a lawyer?
The children think that she adopted me out of kindness / generosity.
As always — Liberty Valance style — sell the myth.
Rangers 114 trophies.
Celtic 113 trophies.
Ahh, now it’s easy to understand the why the panic has set in 😲
Ange being the man to pass them with a cheeky wee treble …wooft!
That. Is. Sensational.
They are obsessed with the expression “most successful club in the world” pish
Even from their own site it says “are the second most-honoured football club in the world, having won 116 trophies in total”. Although that tally doesn’t match yours but there’s a limit to how much time I want to stay on their site. So can’t be bothered counting 🙄
Three cheers for Tommy Gemmell
He put us on the level
When we were one goal down
He turned the game around
Inter’s defence was frightening
But he tore through it like lightening
And Sarti didn’t have a clue
When Chalmers made it two
OK since I hadn’t closed the page….
Scottish cup 34
League Cup 27
So they don’t count the cup winners cup then 🤷
Prestonpans bhoys, not counting the 2 Sevco have won, 114 would appear to be the magic number.
I’m hoping we’ll have passed that number come May …not that I’ll be claiming any world records 😋
This is gonna be so much fun.
Can I point out that I would much prefer PL had never heard of money ball. He has used it as a reason to kiss a lot of frogs and only occasionally found a prince. It’s not how I want the club to be run but we have to face the reality. In my opinion that is players who show Premier League level performances in two seasons for us will themselves want to move and the club can do nothing about it except get the best price. Be honest with yourself MM. We can’t even hold onto dyed in the wool Celtic men like Tierney so don’t be expecting the likes of Jota and CCV to be here long term. That’s why Ange is so important because he can identify talent for prices we can afford. I just hope we have began to build our infrastructure so when he does go we are not looking at Armageddon – again.
Now, back to read todays article and comments.
You forgot your get out clause… did you include a sanity clause ?
You forgot your get out clause… did you include a sanity clause ?
Everybody knows there ain’t no Sanaty Claus
Brilliant Movie 😁😁😁
ATOB @ 12.09
I fear your viewpoint is selling us short — a cry for help / dialogue of the unambitious.
We need a a team of EPL quality and better — there are a huge amount of well paid journeymen / duffers in the EPL every season. It is the reason that up to 5 teams every year look certain for the drop — over promoted dross floundering at that level.
EPL performance levels — we need to give players of this quality and better a reason to stay.
Playing good football surrounded by a strong developing / growing squad is one way to make it happen.
KF is a case in point — next season what would be best for him as a player?
Grow with us with some big games in Europe playing within a hungry / ambitious squad wanting to progress?
Or make the jump to the EPL lucky dip where the manager will have a half life of 9 months and the real cloggers of the ECh await a poor season — not good/
Money might play a part but he will have a bigger future with us than 60% of the EPL.
If we go for growth ourselves with real ambition then we might keep good players for 4 years instead of 2.
KF is starting to look like a special case — a totem that we can afford to try and keep.
Gone Madmitch go on give it tight to those who think they know all ,them few who today have criticised you ,don’t come on here with anything positive about our club ,they really are chancers who probably don’t go and watch Celtic ,I hope they get chased on here ,
Stability, and success.. unprecedented success.
‘Dermot Desmond’s legacy will forever be enshrined in Celtic’s history’. Neil Lennon.
Blessed we have been to have had Dermot Desmond at the football club.
For clarification, James (in case I’m included as one of your “chancers”) my only criticism of Madmitch is his laziness in using folks’ initials rather than full or even partial names. My old brain cant be bothered with the start, stop, think, restart, stop think read. Which is a real pity, and my loss, if what he/she is saying is worthwhile but there you go.
Kieren Tierney is a name that pops up often on this site
As you and others have stated a died in the wool Celtic supporter we could not hold on to.
There are a myriad of reasons for such!
I have posted a few times that he was going backwards as a player under Rodgers as his fearsome running, crossing and tackling disappeared in his last season and a half as he stuck to the system of safe and sideways passing.
Had injuries and zero support from Celtic and officialdom from opponents brutally targeting him make the boy realize his career was being imperiled in this corrupt environment?
Our simply like many others in EPL the money was a driving factor?
Did our board make it clear they wanted the money on offer and encouraged him to go?
Since no-one knows we will all just have to make our own assumptions.
On future player sale’s i think anyone with a high value will have a short lifespan and board will encourage such.
We are still first and foremost a business under DD and PL so unfortunately while Ange has a far superior ability to pick players over the dud Lawwell profit will always be the priority
I would strongly go with this suggestion of yours:
Had injuries and zero support from Celtic and officialdom from opponents brutally targeting him make the boy realize his career was being imperiled in this corrupt environment
Correct. Kieran left out of necessity,not because his heart was elsewhere or because of money being dangled his way.
Building an EPL quality team takes money. Only once in my lifetime have we broke the £100m barrier. Teams in the EPL get that for finishing 10 to 15th. Subsequently the wages on offer are more than double/treble what we can offer. If you believe the figures released earlier this season our top earner is calmac on £32k. If he is at Wolves, Southampton, Brighton it’s double that and if he’s at Leicester, Everton it’s treble and even at the likes of spurs or Arsenal it’s 4 times that. No player is going to turn that down unless they have specific reasons for staying in the west of Scotland. I am not unambitious for Celtic but I realised long ago that f we are to stay in this league then my highlights will be league championships and a crack at the big boys in Europe. If we get out the group it’s a great campaign. As I said, I’m a realist.
I am not aware that anyone has given it tight to MM except for the use of initials to describe players. People find it a struggle to read what are usually excellent posts. I’m sure he’s a big enough boy to argue his case without you jumping in from nowhere offering to hand his jaiket.
As for people defending Tierney. Fair enough. I see the point that he was getting kicked rotten but maybe he should have stated that when he left. Who knows, he could have even shouted it through the green brigade microphone that he was so keen to grab after every triumph.
Enjoyed the leader.
As always you encapsulate well a whats happened snapshot and whats to come scenario.
Its easy to get ahead of ourselves in terms of the upcoming games especially when there is the possibility of another league title and possible treble ahead.I think some of us do because we are planning ahead to make sure they can attend the game or at the very least watch it live when the next trophy is achieved.(Hopefully)
.Domestically we know if we bring our A game to every match situation more than likely we will triumph but every team can dip.
We won the cup final and move on to the venue of our only defeat in the league.I anticipate a win most of us do but we have to be at it.High tempo right from the start,right team selection and focussed concentration levels.
I have always maintained football can change very quickly.Right now we are in a very good place with a very good manager and a decent squad.
One game at a time will be Anges mantra as should be ours but we cant help but look ahead.
Great movie.Excellent tune and superb dan
cing and the message.
Quite a moment for me. First time I have moved away from CQN. Saw a lot of well remembered monikers from years past on here. Must look in more regularly. Feel CQN is not the same without so many of you.
A very warm welcome to you,sir! You are most welcome here,and I hope you will enjoy it. I look forward to reading your future contributions.
Not enough about the football on CQN these days, for some reason? Enjoying articles and (most) comments here, makes nice,easy reading.
One game at a time indeed.
St Mirren next.
Ange isn’t the revenge type, he takes each game on its own merits.
Looking back to last September there are extenuating circumstances:
In midweek we had just drawn v Shakhtar in a game you could tell the players felt they should have won.
Their reaction at the end was one of severe disappointment, fan engagement was virtually zero. It definitely knocked confidence.
The team selection v St Mirren had Ralston Welsh and Jenz in defence.
I think CCV was injured ( and sorely missed) and JJ made way for Tony.
So disruption there.
Mooy, who was struggling to hit the heights he now does, was replaced by Reo at half time.
Together with the fact we had 80%! Possession but could do nothing with the 16 shots and 6 on target, kinda confirms the view we could’ve played all day and not scored.
One of those days.
This weekend sees us reaching levels of consistency that Ange works towards as the season approaches critical point.
ATOB @ 3.35
Thanks for the detailed response — not quite getting your numbers though.
For me with AP’s growth agenda we are leaving Moneyball behind as we grow out of PL’s unwanted shadow …
We are looking like a £150mill T/O team in the medium term — stretch but very achievable.
With the potential of being a £200mill T/O team in 2030’ish.
Please remember that we had a T/O of £70mill’ish in 2003/04 — what was the cost of a stamp / Big Mac / cost of a strip back then?
£150mill T/O points to a football wages / expense budget of £75mill plus bonuses.
If we can get to that number we can pay £100Kpw to a few players — four or five not a full team.
We have come close to £70Kpw in our recent past — a CEO to be exact.
That is who badly run the club was before AP blew the bloody doors off.
We have a good offer to put in front of a lot of good players.
Offer them a chance to build their career — if they come then they come.
If they come play well and then go — then no worries.
Just a case that better they leave for the top half of the EPL and not the bottom.
We are are not a feeder club for Southampton — only repeated CEO failure allows that to happen.
Bonus levels — not sure how aggressive / hungry we aim to be?
£10K per player / £5K per used sub / £150K in total for each SPL win?
Double it if we win the league?
Might reduce the number of £100K pw players by one or two.
Main point — we should not be scared of EPL relegation fodder / ECh hopefuls when it comes to wages.
They may need to pay more than what we think people are worth — relegation risk factor.
But they cannot afford more than we can.
KT stuff — we sold him injured.
Indeed we played him injured in his last season.
He had a number of very poor performances — through injury to be exact.
It took the Erse 6 months to rebuild him.
I would be sifting through the EPL for unwanted gems for next season.
Players that want big games and not big pay cheques.
Could we find a quality CB going spare at ManU / L/pool?
Shhhhhhh, never interrupt the enemy when they’re making a mistake, even if it’s the same mistake over and over again…
John Lundstram insists there is no major gulf between Rangers and Celtic in the wake of his side’s League Cup final pain.
The midfielder has admitted his own performance levels weren’t where he wanted them to be in the 2-1 Viaplay Cup showpiece, while boss Michael Beale said no player in blue did themselves justice at Hampden. Celtic also hold a nine-point gap in the Premiership title race and are on course to retain that trophy, with Rangers defending their Scottish Cup crown.
Despite having not won against Ange Postecoglou’s men this term, Lundstram insists there isn’t a major gap between the pair. He explained: “It is one game, they turned up and we didn’t. I think the combination for that didn’t complement each other well. It looks like there is a massive gap but I don’t think there is a massive gap. It is one game and looked like that at the weekend.
“But my personal opinion is that I don’t think there is. I don’t think the gap is as massive as one game portrays, they are a few points ahead of us in the league but we have showed we are a really good team.
“We have spoke internally about where we think we went wrong and that is one us. Not them being 100% better than us, we weren’t ourselves and didn’t get it right, that is on us and not the gap.”
Kieran Tierney will be glad Arsenal won’t be playing Broonie’s Fleetwood any time soon.
Broonie signed Jayden Stockley in the January window from Charlton.
Of course, Stockley pleaded his innocence after his assault in the 2017 Scottish Cup Final 🤷🏻♂️
Kieran won’t be keen on a fixture against Shrewsbury who have ‘top’ striker Ryan Bowman leading their line.
Bring him home ….😂
( excuse the redtop links 😞)
The media will have to do a 180° turn now, you can’t sell ST’S saying the team is shite. Hence all the bullshite about them being off boil, wait until the next time at CP pish.
Should be a good laugh 😃
You say you’re not getting my numbers? Bloody Nora, you’re saying we can get turnover to £200m in 2030. Now I know inflation is high but at those figures that would mean my season ticket going from circa £700 to £1700. Not sure how many thousand would pay that amount to watch us play in the Scottish league. Also surely you will admit that players, no matter what we pay them will want to test themselves at the highest level. That does not normally encompass the teams in our league.
Welcome to the blog. I look forward to your contributions.