Heart Break Bhoys
I effing hate the Jambo’s you know. They have it easy right now you know, in reality the Dons and even the Hi-Bees should be pushing them for that third place spot. They are lucky both are in transition.
Their manager has seriously disappointed me, sending his teams out to battle rather than attempt to play actual football, and barely attempting to break up the traditional top two despite the fact he’s young and that would bolster his CV no end. It looks like he’s settled for perennial third, as that will probably keep his job safe, ambition be damned.
Whatever floats yer boat Robbie.
When we visit Tynecastle the venom spews from the stands, yet the manager could tone that by first and foremost asking for a jovial atmosphere and then instructing his charges to attack Celtic at pace and in numbers, which is our Achilles heel.
Part of me suspects the whistlers agenda is not to help the blues win the title, but to keep the gap respectful and more importantly to make sure the Jambo’s don’t take that second position with it’s potentially lucrative rewards vital to a club not used to being financially policed.
If I were the Hearts board I would be demanding that second slot be fought for, there for the taking and all that, but his team barely muster a shot on goal when faced with blue. There’s a potential 12 point swing between the clubs via the four meetings, a good manager would be knocking on their door, at the least.
And that’s why I would look elsewhere if I had a say in Hearts,, contentedness all around the squad, no style of football to speak of, gaffer can’t or won’t reach that next level. If generous maybe give him next year as the second best team in the land will see several departures in the summer and should theoretically be more vulnerable, but that should be the line in the sand moment over in Edinburgh. There’s supposed to be supporter input over there via shares I believe, should not be heavily pointing this out?
And if the whistlers are helping keep that gap, should they not be screaming from the high heavens?
Something stinks, no wonder they call it Swinecastle.
Anyhows enough about the opposition, what about the mighty leather belts?
Obviously the first of a double header sets the tone, which usually means your strongest side.
Good luck picking that though.
Liel looks on form, Matt was incisive, Hacksabanovic is one serious talent that is needing recalled.
Oh, and there’s Oh. On a high, a big bhoy to put up with the Jambo’s hussle and bussle approach, he’s the perfect wild card up top for one of these two clashes.
Ange admitted he will need the squad for the double header, yet it’s debatable which tie is the more important.
The worrier would prioritize the league, the op-Tim-ist considers it wrapped up believe it’s the cup that should be given precedence.
They are both big, that’s me sitting on the fence.
Personally though, win that Cup tie as the leagues falling into place nicely.
Trebles are rare, they are special and the mark of a good team. For Ange to go one further than last year would be just rewards for his immense effort so far.
And so I approach tonight’s game with enthusiasm and a slight nonchalance. Whatever happens, happens. It’s a bit like Man United shipping seven the other day, they clearly suffered a bad one, but overall the trajectory is very positive so it can be brushed off.
A defeat might come, yes, but under the floodlights we will aim to dazzle. We will aim to win. And that’s generally good enough.
By Mahe
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Morning all,
At Mahe points out, we might see a shake up in the line up tonight.
Well for me, I would go with;
Hart
Johnston Starfelt CCV Taylor
Mooy Calmac Hatate
Abada Kyogo Jota
All guns blazing and when 3up ( whatever time that may be ) bring on the subs with all 5 getting ample game time 👍
In Ange we trust.
HH 🍀🍀🍀
LEGGY
I’m with you on that. Play your best side,though I’d have Maeda for Abada. No reflection on Abada,he deserved his MOTM on Sunday,but best side from start,tire them out. Hit them with fresh legs and put them to the sword.
Btw,they will have one game plan tonight. Brutality.
One game at a time. Saturday will take care of itself.
Don’t like that horrible mob either, hopefully Celtic demolish them.
I would start with Maeda,keep them hemmed in, he’ll torture the life out of their rickety defence – Abada is the best impact player in the league, can be introduced at anytime to further terrorise them.
Good news story right here:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/darts/64876162
Over & out.
BelieveCSC.🍀
Good morning all
I was in bed not long after my last post last night and did not see Mad Mitch’s reply to it.
The change to home clubs keeping all gate receipts in Scottish League games came during the 80-81 season – February of 1981. VAR is not the first big change Scottish football has implemented mid-stream. As I recall Celtic and Aberdeen were the big drivers on this- certainly publicly- and that the change had widespread support.
Aberdeen and Dundee United had some impressive seasons in Europe in the 80s- Hearts had a good UEFA run in 88/9 too- but Scottish teams decline in Europe had begun several years before the change so although I agree that the change did eventually lead to the incomes of Celtic and Rangers dwarfing that of the other clubs I do not see the change to gate rules being more than one of the minor factors in our decline. Resistance to innovations in tactics, the conditioning of players, Junior Football ceasing to being a regular supplier of players good enough to turn pro, Souness’ arrival which led to most clubs in the top league signing supposedly high quality players from outside Scotland instead of building teams from within and changes in society which saw far fewer youngsters playing football in the street or on patches of waste ground are other things which did not help. Mitch also points out that , and I think I understand him, external factors which diminish Scotland’s standing in the game- 60 years ago pro football was a 2 continent game now it’s 6.
The supporters of 42 out of 42 Scottish clubs would wish Celtic and Rangers to not play in the Scottish League system. The big 2 would like to play in England or some sort of pan- European league, the other 40 because despite the likely diminishing of tv and other sponsorship money their leaving would give them a chance of winning things. If you look at Hibs and Dundee United – ironically two clubs which had properly good teams in the first half of my life – many clubs and supporters seem incredibly resistant to updating methods and attitudes. Blood and thunder with the players going out for a bevvy until Tuesday seems preferable to trying to adapt. Ronny Deila and Ian Cathro were mocked by pundits for trying to bring modern methods to Celtic and Hearts. Aside from Celtic and Rangers being still part of it the other clubs seem to have what it seems to want for our football – a football North Korea.
Have a good day
Jimbo
Morning
I tried to post a longer reply to Mitch re gate money but it seems to have been lost.
Anyway the change from 50/50 to 100/0 was agreed during the 1980/1 season coming into force in Feb 2001 – the same month the drink ban became law (although in practice that had been in force since the 1980 cup final). As I recall the most vocal supporters of the change were Desmond White ( Celtic) and Chris Donald ( Aberdeen). The changes were- whatever is said now- popular. I doubt it played much of a part in the decline in quality of our football. Resistance to tactical innovations and player conditioning, changing social habits, Souness’ arrival meaning other clubs largely abandoned developing youngsters by preferring to sign players from outside Scotland, Junior Football no longer being a source of players good enough to step up and even, I suppose, the abolition of the Maximum Wage in the early 60s are just some of the other factors.
As Mitch suggests – I think I have decoded him – being a small nation in a 6 continents game- 50 years ago it was only really a 2 continent sport – has been at least as big a factor as all of the domestic factors combined
Have a good day
Jimbo
SUNDAY 8TH
In a few hours time I shall be twenty-seven grand years of age. Paradoxically it will be a happy enough birthday; perhaps that’s because I am free in spirit. I can offer no other reason.
I was at Mass today, and saw all the lads minus their beards, etc. An American priest said Mass and I went to Communion. One of the lads collapsed before Mass, but he’s all right now. Another was taken out to Musgrave military hospital. These are regular occurrences.
I am 60.8 kgs today, and have no medical complaints.
I received another note from my sister Bernie and her boyfriend. It does my heart good to hear from her. I got the Irish News today, which carried some adverts in support of the hunger-strike.
There is a stand-by doctor who examined me at the weekend, a young man whose name I did not know up until now. Little friendly Dr Ross has been the doctor. He was also the doctor during the last hunger-strike.
Dr Emerson is, they say, down with the ‘flu… Dr Ross, although friendly, is in my opinion also an examiner of people’s minds. Which reminds me, they haven’t asked me to see a psychiatrist yet. No doubt they will yet, but I won’t see him for I am mentally stable, probably more so than he.
I read some wild-life articles in various papers, which indeed brought back memories of the once-upon-a-time budding ornithologist! It was a bright pleasant afternoon today and it is a calm evening. It is surprising what even the confined eyes and ears can discover.
I am awaiting the lark, for spring is all but upon us. How I listened to that lark when I was in H-5, and watched a pair of chaffinches which arrived in February. Now lying on what indeed is my death bed, I still listen even to the black crows.
Interesting stuff about BEVs last night — shows the attitudes that can develop in this time of hyper individualism / facebook / ID politics.
I have pushed the REx idea — very poorly I might add — donkey engine and a half battery solution.
Batteries were / sorry are in short supply and will be the choke point up until 2025 / 27.
However I was just a contractor / grunt so it was rejected and they plodded on with their quick bodge it and scarper stuff them everywhere solution that Heath Robinson would have been ashamed off.
The project was cancelled / the brand lost millions and credibility plus the CEO lost his job because he listened to a load of hobby horse’rs who could not bear to see their signature vehicle die an early death.
The quarter battery angle — 70miles notional range / 50 miles actual — is to me the way forward for the next 5 years. Tax petrol to the max and let the users / market decide. PV panels are getting pretty cheap and pretty mainstream plus static storage batteries are heading that way so that local / residential production of electricity is really on the up.
Recent exposure to a new house with PV panels on the roof shows what they can achieve.
Fully electrified powertrains are the way forward.
See the market for grass cutters for confirmation.
Plus Kenwood never built — to my knowledge — a petrol engined Chef / IBM a petrol engined laptop.
All the facebook chat about batteries — the Duracell Bunny never had to deal with that level of snash.
Ask yourself why — he / she it was never a threat to Big Oil / ME oil producers.
BEVs are — please see all the negative chat in that context.
Hertz / Sheep / Hibbee angle — are they getting value for money regarding their support / 20K stadiums / current T/O angle?
Given the quality of teams that we have played in Euro football in recent years with a similar level of resources then the answer has to be a big fat no / not a chance.
As noted in the article — Hertz don’t help themselves with their highly variable effort levels / tactics.
Consequently all three teams have a huge amount of space to work in regarding coaching / tactics / squad development.
The spotlight needs to be focused on this ongoing lack of ambition / depth / desire.
In recent years only St Johnstone during their double season made the most of the squad / talent that they had at their disposal.
It showed what can be done with limited resources if they are handled correctly.
For too many the support expect failure and the board / squads / coaching staff are happy to deliver.
It has even affected us in the recent past regarding Euro performances / ambition.
The CL was not for the likes of us / the EuL is getting too much of a challenge so we need to find our level.
Then we get put out of the EuroConL early in the knockout rounds.
Aim low and guess what – you crash at the earliest opportunity.
Lessons have been learned by all from that plus the Copenhagen loss was even more extreme.
J67 — losing posts …
I think there is a bug in the system.
After you post a comment it seems to show at the top of the stream.
Not at the bottom where you would expect the latest post to show up
When this happens don’t hit the recent comments list — that links to the blog before your post was added.
You return to that previous state and you lose your recent post which was in some sort of limbo at the top of the list.
I think the best way / most reliable way to update is to click on the “Sentinel Celts” banner at the top of the screen whic takes you to the home page and then click on the active post. Your new post will be there waiting for you.
Bit clunky but I have lost big posts in a similar manner to what you were describing.
Amateur hour systems analysis — if anyone knows the real story they please shout out …
16.35 Kempton today. Celtic Champion.. is it an omen I ask myself
Auldbhoy67
Lions dream in the first race at Kempton.
There’s your double.
Or
You could also add sandy paradise for a treble!.
I think I will do a trixie.
JIMBO67
That’s restored. Again,no idea why it was filtered out in the first place. Apologies.
MM
Not quite. Your comment will remain at the top of the page,along with any others which arrived while you were typing. Refreshing the page puts them back in order.
I don’t think it’s debatable which game is more important.
Definitely the league game tonight.
The cups are secondary.
As my old man used to say.
The cups only mean something, if they are sitting alongside the league trophy at the end of the season.
BMCUW @ 10.29’ish
Ok — will try it later.
I have not had the cojones to refresh the page after losing a number of posts to pressing one of the comments in the “Recent Comments” list. That would seem to take you back to the state of the blog before you started typing and losing your invariably long post as a result.
Belt and braces approach — Sentinel Celts banner back to the home page does work.
Very clunky but the local limbo angle is a pain — don’t press “Recent Comments” after posting.
Wed vs Hertz — Phasers set to malky
Saturday vs Hertz — Phasers set to double malky.
Remember NL / remember Auld Reekie juries.
Morning all…
MM – all new posts appear at top of page and remain there (usually in yellow unless you click on it/hover over it when it goes white to signify it’s been read) until you press ‘refresh’.
If you’re typing a lengthy post, and to be fair you like to type even if it is in abbreviations and forward slashes, and then scroll to read a comment or check a detail before posting your comment it’s wise to c+p it as sometimes it can be mysteriously removed (this has happened to me its but invariably been my ain stupid fault!)
The filters will catch offensive stuff, like SIR DAVID MURRAY or too many hyperlinks but generally speaking the site works reasonably well!
I’m not big on making changes for the sake of making them, but I’ve a feeling Matt might get the nod tonight.
The moment big Cam and Ange had on Sunday wasn’t just funny, it was Ange reminding one of our MVPs of the standards he demands of each of them.
Love seeing the relationship he has built with his players.
You can see the respect they all have for the boss.
There hasn’t been many times I’ve felt so confident in a Celtic manager’s abilities.
I’ll be happy if we do manage to win the treble, but I also won’t be too down if we dont.
Winning another double would be a good season.
Having said that, I’m sure Ange and the players would love to win the national cup final.
Just win tonight and we’ll take it from there.
Fair dinkum cobber.
HH 💚🍀
Jimbo67…a couple of things you forgot to mention or omitted are the Bosman ruling leading to over-hyped foreigners coming in on the cheap and restricting youth development. Add in the decision by RFC to pull out of the Reserve League leading to a total collapse of competitive Youth fitba in Scotland and it doesn’t take much to see where our game failed!
Abada and O’Riley in for Maeda and Mooy tonight for me. Maeda and Mooy will be needed more at the weekend. I’d also be inclined to give Kobayashi a start tonight but how do you split up a partnership that hasn’t lost a game?
BAD…cheers for the Top 5 acknowledgement yesterday! 😉👍
The League is the one for us all but ye cannae whack a last day of the season day oot, especially if the Huns aren’t involved. And anyway, the mantra has always got to be that we want to win every game we compete in, no matter who no matter where or when!
HH
Macargo…you don’t and Ange won’t. It’s not his style. Minimum changes has been his modus operandi to date and he’ll not make three changes for such a potentially difficult game. Bear in mind also that he’s fully aware of how VAR can change games for us so I reckon he’s less inclined to make changes because of that!
McCaff
As I said there are lots of reasons and they all add up- yours are as valid as any I named for sure.
Jimbo
One for Oglach…
https://twitter.com/Football_Scot/status/1633417623063998464
Jimbo67
There is a psychological element at play that brought gate sharing in and resists any change.
Individually, gate money is OUR money. The result of OUR labour and why should it be shared with anyone else?
It is as if it is coming directly out of our pockets and that is a psychological barrier.
I will go out on a limb here and say that it is likely with the financial advantage Celtic already have where CL income is the largest contributor to our football earnings, that in 3 years, if we dont change our current football first policy , we will have 3 years CL income our main rivals will not have (changes to CL format notwithstanding).
By that stage the SPFL will have become a one horse race and be totally uncompetitive.
Since CL money will be responsible for the skew, the argument for increasing solidarity payment to the league and reducing what the top clubs get will have gathered force.
It avoids the physchlogical “our money” barrier and other clubs could argue that they are needed first to provide opposition to create a title winner, then to provide competitive opposition so deserve a better share.
The pursuit of CL money killed Rangers FC Plc and it will do a repeat if FSR does not reign their successor in.
Scottish football survived the last Blue Suicide but I wouldnt bet on it a second time around, so reality will as ever march to the beat of it’s own drum and determine a solution.
An interesting article by Phil on why our main rivals will be second best in Glasgow
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2023/03/08/the-sad-predicament-of-fc-zugzwang/
AFTERNON ALL and JIM, just looked out the windae there, thought i was back home in Lanarkshire feckin snowing here in cheshire,,just about to get my sledge oot, for you ghuys from other parts of the world a sledge is what we called a sleigh in lanarkshire,,another true story🤩
everton fans in their late 70s and eighties called him the golden vision, they adored him, he was born in loanhead and played for heart of midlothian and everton ,born in feb 1937 died in edinburgh in 2017 aged 80, cyber pint if you know his name👍
Auldheid
As you know the FSR is assessed over a three year period. T1 T2 T3. The huns T1 and T2 is atrocious but T3 was actually pretty good. The FSR is also being phased in over 3 years so financial constraints are starting at 90% then 80% and then 70%. So it would seem since the huns haven’t been spending in T3 and that the FSR constraints are at 90% that they are actually being quite prudent. Clubs can also benefit from contributions (equity investment) over a 3 year period I think it’s 5 million a year as long as their other figures prove that they are sustainable. That’s something that the huns can definitely rely on and we can’t. So the huns will be having no difficulties with regards licensing. CL qualification is worth more than an EL final. Celtic’s wage to turnover ratio is now bigger than Sevco and they are about to shed 40% of their wage bill this summer. So the hun is being very canny indeed. No debate. So it might be one or two years where we will have a clear advantage if we keep selling our best players but the picture that Phil portrays is neither accurate nor factual. He’s behaving like exactly what he hates.
I should add that the proviso that if Mike Ashley is out of the picture and the huns can start to readdress the retail arm of their operations. Is he still in the picture? Or did he do a dodgy deal behind closed doors and relinquish his hold on the hun to permit his sale of Newcastle to The Saudi investment group and was that why it took so long for that case to be settled? If he’s out the picture then that’s another 6-7 million extra per year
Big Packy
Alex Young – thought he was 50s through to late 60s.
Jimbo
AH @ 2.29
The issue with PMcGh’s analysis is that he does not know what he is talking about and his low rent boosterism actually highlights the the opposite of what he is aiming for.
21/22 season Us vs them
We are ahead of TFOD2.1 at the moment because of AP.
Our financial lead over them is pretty small — £1.4mill in T/O but we are working the squad much better.
Plus they have an extra £5.2mill of “Other Operating Income” which they separate out in their financials.
Our T/O figures are inflated because we have our own shopping network.
Our revenue is higher but our costs are higher because we sell actual merchandise.
Their T/O figure is inflated due to their EuL run — not a given / bit of an outlier.
They — in the main — have sold the rights to sell their merchandise so lower costs.
I think they have one physical outlet and a web channel — so their raw numbers are smaller..
This season — the 6 months figures will be much closer to an apples to apples comparison.
Both will include a CL group stage while they will have the qualification rounds as well.
Stadium income — we are at £43.1mill / they are at £41.9mill.
We have a 2000 waiting list for the free pie seats / they have increased the size of their lounge offer.
The gap that PMcG sees is not their in real life — plus they are doing something about it.
They have maxed out their season ticket numbers — helps with the cashflow.
We seem to have continued with our historical 53K number of season tickets.
Add in their historically larger hospitality numbers and we are ahead but not by much.
AP has done us a turn in that we now have sell outs where in the past we would have had 1-2K empty seats.
Consequently we need to wait till we see their 6 month figures before we an make a judgement.
PMcGh is just at his boosterism / give them what they want to hear worst.
He needs to get his egg chasing / bean counting buddy involved.
My thoughts are that if TFOD2.1 could cut out the bluster / boasting / brain dead sloganeering they might actually get somewhere.
In the end it is always their “WATP” trope / vibe that beats them.
They can’t deal with reality — they are special seemingly.
JIMBO 67 well done cyber pint on its way, he played for everton 1960 till 1968👍
born in troon, he played for ayr united then moved to liverpool,,was capped by scotland 27 times, what was his name, cyber pint for the right answer👍
Big Packy
Steve Nicol?
HEY, you googled that ,so its only a half pint of shandy for you 🤩🤩
McCaff, my pleasure mate 👍 was another good top5.
It’s honestly been years since I heard half man half biscuit …thanks for the reminder 😊
Damn it! I knew that answer too!
Back when Liverpool bought players from giants like Ayr Utd and Partick, and were still the best team in the world 😯
Big Packy
A ridiculous slur. All good Ayrshire men know Steve Nicol was a Troon boy, and your other clues confirmed the answer. Google indeed.
Try this one. Born in Kilbirnie, played for St Mirren, Leeds and Man Utd. Manager at Airdrie. Cyber Glenfarclas if you get it.
this is a hard one, cyber bottle of whisky for the right answer ,born in dundee, played for dundee from 1957 till 1960, before moving to everton, played for everton from 1960 till 1967, hey what a year that was🤩 he had 6 scotland u23 caps, and 2 scotland full caps he died in phoenix arizona in 2021 aged 80, what was his name ????
SOL ,gordan McQueen??
Big Packy
🥃
Auldheid @ 1 53
I remember the changes that brought about gate sharing and I, as I suggested in my reply to Mad Mitch, do not think that it was one of the key factors in the decline in the standard of football played in this country, especially in comparison to other countries with similar sized populations to this one. I do think the 1980/1 change was an important thing- and for some clubs a diminishing one- but to me it’s just another excuse for why ‘we are so bad’.
I lived in Edinburgh for 20 plus years and listened to the whingeing excuses as to why their two main teams had fallen so far behind Celtic and Rangers by even the late 60s- those clubs and probably every other club , barring the Aberdeen and Dundee Utd of the period from Ferguson taking over in 78 through to the day the Dons lost the league on the last day of the 90/1 season, made no serious attempt to actually be good at football- it was always somebody else’s fault that they were not.
I get a bit fed up with our fans blaming everything on a Masonic conspiracy (this season is hard to dismiss that idea I know) but it is nothing compared to the self pitying garbage of supporters of teams which should have been and be much better than they were or are. Our football is Daffy Ducked beyond repair I fear- every strategic decision made for change by Scottish football’s governing bodies has turned out bad- even though some like the revamp of 1975 seemed right at time. And to paraphase Mad Mitch – I think I caught his drift- Scottish football being an unfit small fish in an ever expanding sea is probably as damning as anything
Sorry to be so grumpy today but my gums are sore and my sinuses blocked.
Jimbo
Big Packy
Jimmy Gabriel
Big Packy
Which ex-Dundee player had the shortest name in British football in the 1960s? Possibly still has.
That’s first name and surname.
JIMBO67 spot on, there will be a bottle of glenmorangie arriving at your house shortly, courtesy of SOLKITTS although he doesn’t know it yet🤩🤩
SOL give me a clue🤩
Big Packy
6 letters in total.
SOL ian ure?
FRODSHAMBHOY, where are you,wee joan has been missing you, have you gone to helsby where all the nightlife is 🤩🤩
you know what is sad, JIMTHETIM53 used to say to me I envy you and FRODSHAMBHOY, because i watch the antiques roadshow and it covers all the antique shops in frodsham, if he was up for it id drive up to shotts and bring him down here, he could stay in our spare room , and id take him round the antique shops in frodsham and take him to cheshire oaks, where he went on a business trip a few years ago,,JIM if your lurking, that offer is a true story👍
big packy
FRODSHAMBHOY, where are you,wee joan has been missing you, have you gone to helsby where all the nightlife is 🤩🤩
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Been in Chester all day. Just back in Frodsham.
Reading back:
Ian Ure – I got that right away. When I worked in Centre 1 I dealt with his tax for a couple of years.
Half Man Half Biscuit – Brilliant, Birkenhead’s finest. Was surprised they didn’t get a mention when
Dicky Davies passed away.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SwG414rpqmQ
Before I retired I looked after dentists’ accounts and tax. Basically they were either Principals (practice owners) or Associates (working in a surgery owned by a Principal).
One of my clients was a bit different. He was a specialist and worked at various practices taking his own nurse and equipment. I told the staff he was neither a Principal or Associate, he was Half Man Half Biscuit. Someone marked HMHB across his file and he was always called that in the office.