The Hangover Hoops

We suffered a hangover alright. Jaded, flat, uninspiring,,still didn’t get beat though.
 
It’s not uncommon for European ventures to take their toll, most clubs won’t win all six weekend games after serious midweek efforts, that’s just the nature of the beast.
Even still, it feels disappointing to walk away with five from a possible nine points, to come back down to earth even though undefeated in the three huge ties.
 
I’ll hold my hands up, I got this one wrong. Many posters said I hope there’s more than one change to the lineup, I felt our quality and momentum would carry us to victory.
I now understand several changes are wise ‘the game after’, and that’s where the problems begin.
 
We have a large squad but not necessarily a strong one. He admittedly works with the players he is given, but barring one exception, he doesn’t.
Only two of the summer signings are currently in the frame, a very sad indictment of the transfer committee. I would happily trade or release half our squad, I’m sure Brendan would also, a symptom of the left hand not working in conjunction with the right hand. If there’s anyone that can demand more authority in the transfer market it’s Brendan, and the draw at Hibs strengthens his case to be listened to on that front, as does more potential hiccups with the expanded Champions League. I suppose the next two windows will tell us just how much influence he has, and also tell us how committed the PLC are to truly progressing the first team squad. Without large player churn more post Europe hiccups await.
 
Unfortunately our club of choice are not very adapt at moving on unwanted players, and we all know why. It’s the biggest club with the biggest wages to accompany, why move for less income is the prevailing attitude or McCarthy would be gone. Every club doesn’t want to simply say no, here’s all you’re owed, away you go,,,you sell, cut a deal, or he stays draining resources.
That’s the simple version, the real world offers many more reasons for players to stay such as kids are in school and don’t want to uplift them mid term, popular in the dressing room, or they want a Bosman transfer to get bigger wages.
It’s simply hard for Celtic to shift players, another hindrance to the major churn I wish for. Which makes it more important the transfer committee select the correct players. Stating the obvious, they must change tact because staying the same is just draining resources, and for a money obsessed board that will be clear.
 
During a week we witnessed the best of the team midweek, the weekend gave us an example of the worst aspect of football operations, unwise purchases.
 
If you put yourself in any managers shoes, after doing well with a lot of the inherited players, if he doesn’t have confidence they will be adequately replaced then getting the most from the current bunch then leaving whilst on top would be the best career choice.
 
I’ve mentioned before that Brendans caught in a trap in that he really can’t quickly walk away but must spend some quality time at the club in order to rebuild his relationship with the support.
However I believe the board are now stumbling into their own trap. Having recruited a good quality leader who wishes to stay and build, the onus is now very publicly on the board to properly support him.
He’s good, give him the tools to do the job and watch him go, is the mantra.
Everyone knows it, the boardroom and majority shareholder will have cottoned on of course.
 
In my book we’ve two transfer windows as a club to show the Ulsterman we also mean business. Two very important windows where backing is necessary.
Not only to keep our manager satisfied, but also to keep the support satisfied.
Driving Brendan away through ineptitude would bring heat the boardroom won’t want, and every win and even a draw like Easter Road strengthens the case for better player recruitment.
 
Common sense says back him, sell the unwanted foreigners (who usually don’t mind going home) and buy quality over quantity.
But history shows the board don’t like the manager gaining too much power.
The next two transfer windows will tell us everything we need to know, and really hold a mirror up to our club.
 

By Mahe
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Mahe
October 30, 2023 2:50 am

*SENTINEL CELTS PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2023-24*
*RESULTS FROM GAME #14 – HIBS 0 CELTIC 0*

Good evening, friends.
From early on it seemed clear yesterday that we were in for a tough afternoon and so it turned out with a pretty flat performance. And whilst we showed a little more urgency in the final 15 minutes we didn’t really test the Hibs defence and a point was just about all we deserved.
We have now played 14 games, winning 8, drawing 3 and losing 3 with 26 goals scored and 13 conceded.
A huge thank you to the 56 who voted this week (one nominated just 2 players). The total votes cast for each player are as follows, with my own nominations asterisked.

Hart*: 9
Johnston: 1
Carter-Vickers: 35
Scales: 30
Taylor: 8
McGregor: 19
Bernardo*: 2
O’Riley: 30
Maeda: 3
Kyogo: 0
Palma: 4
Ralston: 1
Turnbull: 1
Forrest*: 18
Oh: 0
Johnston: 6

And so, the players receiving POINTS for the game against Hibs are –
Carter-Vickers – 5 points
O’Riley and Scales – 4 points
McGregor – 2 points
Forrest – 1 point

The overall positions after 14 games played are –
47 points – O’Riley
35 points – Scales
19 points – Kyogo
18 points – McGregor
16 points – Maeda
11 points – Carter-Vickers and Johnston A
9 points – Nawrocki
7 points – Hart and Yang
6 points – Carter-Vickers, Lagerbielke, Palma and Taylor
5 points – Hatate
4 points – Bain and Turnbull
2 points – Ralston
1 point – Forrest
0 points – Abada, Bernabei, Bernardo, Haksabanovic, Holm, Iwata, Johnston M, Oh, Phillips, Starfelt and Welsh

*OCTOBER PLAYER OF THE MONTH*
The Player Of The Month award is based simply on the total votes received across all games played. There were 5 games during October – Lazio, Kilmarnock, Hearts, Atletico and Hibs. In 3rd place with 95 votes is Calum McGregor and the runner up on 228 votes is Matt O’Riley. October’s Player Of The Month with 243 votes is Liam Scales.
So far the monthly winners have been –
August: Kyogo (4 games, 164 votes, average 41)
September: O’Riley (5 games, 259 votes, average 52)
October: Scales (5 games, 243 votes, average 49)

We have one more game to complete the first round of this season’s Premier League when we entertain high flying St Mirren on Wednesday at 7.45pm.
Hail Hail!

Auldheid
October 30, 2023 3:13 am

Magua
Frodshambhoy

Since 2012 player wage inflation has outpaced our earning capacity to keep up.

After losses incurred in getting to Seville The Board took the decision to change course and keep the wage bill manageable whilst other clubs fuelled by TV money became way more competitive than Celtic.

My views are based on what is said in the AGM Report and what has happened to make Celtic and other SPFL clubs solvent.

That is new.

A thing of beauty
October 30, 2023 6:07 am

Auldheid,
As regards this new strategy and your comments on it, two things spring to mind. How does the absolute disaster of a transfer window fit with this new strategy and how does Peter Lawwell get to come back as chairman if he has been costing Dermot Desmond money. Neither of those two things add up to me.

A thing of beauty
October 30, 2023 6:15 am

Mahe,
With all due respect, this transfer window told us all we need to know. Yet those on here who questioned the quality of the recruitment and the timing of the recruitment were often dismissed as panic merchants. We have a squad bloated with players who are not and never will be good enough for Celtic yet the strategy seems to be to go out and buy more shit players. It’s actually incompetence to have such a big squad and be using less than half of them. We should have a squad of 25 players, each pushing the other for a first team place. It’s up to the football department to sort this out or as you say, BR will start to get itchy feet again.

Fan
October 30, 2023 7:22 am

One aspect of Saturday that should worry the support was the similarity in performance that led to our defeat at Kilmarnock.
The same side to side passing that produced few chances and no service to Kyogo.
Our coaches showing no urgency which translated to team.
On Wednesday we had a great first half but dismal second posing no threat.
The praise was overblown but considering our past in Europe under Lawells stewardship a little understandable.

Hoop hoop hoorsy
October 30, 2023 7:26 am

Well said mahe . Spot on.

Hoop hoop hooray
October 30, 2023 7:27 am

The tribute acts equalising penalty was a tug on the shirt. Goldson then flings hinself to the ground thereby failing the ‘red ash test’.
Its the kind that happens all the time in every game. The kind that if you want to you could give it and if you don’t you don’t. And this is the thing. As their league games stretch to 64 without conceding a penalty would muir and beaton have given that at the other end in similar circumstances. Not a snowballs chance in hell. And this is where the advantage comes in,

Muir gave some bizarre free kick decisions against us on Saturday and then was var for them yesterday. Cant remember another time the same ref has been involved in both us and them in same weekend.
And that’s the 4th game in a row between them and hearts that beaton has reffed which is somewhat strange. Or maybe not.

GER57
October 30, 2023 7:35 am

Celtic should be able to slot three or four players into the side from the massive squad, if not seamlessly, with only minor disruption to the playing style and effectiveness. Saturday’s game showed that we are some way short. ATOB’s comments are correct. There are too many passengers in the squad. I mean, McCarthy, WTF??
BR must be fully aware of this, and must have said something to whoever is pulling the purse strings. He won’t stay around if he’s being baulked by the board. I can’t imagine DD will be happy if BR was to jump ship again. The signs aren’t encouraging.
I’ve said before that, given all the uncertainty as Ange left; who’s going with him? who are signing contract extensions? who’s moving on?, we could give the board a pass for the summer window. But there are defo no excuses in January and next summer. We should give credit for the contract extensions for Hatate, Kyoto, O’Riley, CCV and Callum.
Auldheid seems to be even more forgiving of the board than me. Given how he has been so shamefully treated by Lawwell et al, he is a very forgiving man, I suppose being so willing to let stuff go means that one doesn’t dwell so much on what might have been. I still can’t get over AC Milan in 1969, or Feyenoord in 1970. We should have won both, but at least those were football mistakes. If the talk about bonuses is true, then our parsimonious board is to blame again. Surely, in 2023, our board must learn that penny wise is most often pound foolish.

Big Audio Dynamite
October 30, 2023 8:10 am

Has ANY Scottish football club ever had 10s of millions of pounds in the bank?
The position we are in right now, has that ever happened before?
And relative to others in Scotland we would be considered mega-rich, would we not?
And, although we do win the league the majority of the time, we still find ourselves fretting about the outcome till it’s sure ..
This weekend would be a good example of what I mean by fretting.
So, with us having so much financial muscle, doesn’t it beg a very obvious question?
I can only answer for me but asks yourself, would the Huns have any hope of winning the league if YOU were in charge?
Why wouldn’t we make it almost certain that it’s us who get the champions league riches each year …why leave any question mark.
We could blow everyone else out the water if we so desired, so why don’t we?
I’m starting to think I really don’t want to know the answer to that.
We all know sport is murky as hell, but Scottish football may be the standard bearer for how bent sport can get.
Given what has happened in the last 10-15 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that …I mean, look at the evidence!
Even though I love Celtic a massive amount, and I love Celtic winning, i have to wonder what exactly it is I’m watching here.
A sport that officials have carte blanche to influence the outcome every week, and we get silence.
A league where one team is officiated different to all others, and we get silence.
A title that has to be stage managed to give the illusion of competition, and we get yet more silence!
No matter how obvious it becomes, people’s reactions just don’t add up!
No one kicks up a fuss, and we just continue to pay to keep the whole charade rolling along.
Some powerful people think us having Scottish football is really important ..no matter how bad it may appear.
And on we will go ….

Come January we will probably buy another couple of £2m players , and we will spend the second half of the season moaning about Greg Taylor and biting our finger nails …make sense? And if Brendan acknowledges they are there, we might even get to see them play.

What high jinks!

Just Sayin’
October 30, 2023 8:10 am

Another couple of 0-0’s in the next 10 games or so, and we’ll be facing the ref/ pen assisted Huns one point ahead in a must not lose scenario!

We can be great to watch – Hearts and first half v AM but also turgid and pedestrian.
As much as our two stand out performers have excelled, Matt and Liam are outweighed with a litany of average to below par performances from right back all the way to our blunt spearhead.

When we are not on it we are woeful, due to the fact 8 out of 10 or 13 out of 15 outfielders can’t deliver a performance. Lack of focus? Leadership? Composure? Decent options?

Let’s hope Wednesday night is a return to something approaching a team performance.
Passengers are not required.

Madmitch
October 30, 2023 8:47 am

Mahe

Not sure I agree with much of your analysis.

The dogs in the street had the Hibs game down as a low energy affair with the usual suspects being totally off the boil after an exhausting CL game — with the usual suspects now including both the captain and the manager who were lucky to reach a gentle simmer during the week if truth be told.

Then there is the big squad — again the same dogs have BR down as a bit wasteful regarding hoarding players where AP had a total focus on a 26 / 28 man squad.

3GK’s / 2 for every outfield position / 3 utility players / a couple of youths on rotation — BR doesn’t work to this level of detail.

As for the last transfer window — when you have nothing coming through from the youths then you need to load up on projects to make up for the lack of new blood.

Unfortunately RV at the tender age of 18 is becoming the canary in the coalmine regarding our ability to produce youth talent and our then our ability to integrate it into the first team squad — and as things stand the little bird is now in intensive care and the family has been called for.

We have the talent in the squad — just a case that we don’t play it.
KF after his wasteful Hollywood performance in the second half against AM should have been on the bench on Saturday with OHg given a start. TI is worth a start given our current dysfunctional MF so that was a no-brainer while the formation change tried on Wednesday could have been re-visited.

If things had not worked out then change at halftime was always available
BR playing the same again suggests that he is still working his way out of his relegation demons of last season.
Which I fear is news to the hopeless / clueless / useless exec level that hired him.

The new 5 year contract for CMcG says it all unfortunately — more money than sense / the need for a comfort blanket.

Consequently sending a few “foreigners” home is not what we need at this moment in time.
What we need is a total focus on supporting the manager and clearing out the exec level of the never wizzers.

Madmitch
October 30, 2023 9:02 am

SPL — I think it sees itself as entertainment rather than sport in a post WWE stylee..
Its USP would appear to be Reformation level conflict acted out to a shocked but intrigued world.
It made PL’s job easy so it must be the future we want to engage with.

VAR in the SPL — doing exactly what Ludge MIB has done throughout the ages.
That is help our friends in Govan in any way they can imagine and do us down when they can.
VAR just means that they can spend more time on the replays to deliver the required narrative.

Big picture in 23/24 — after 2 years of our success — “OF” PLC would have TFOD2.1 win the league and us do well in Europe.
CL changes / their terrible recruitment / MB implosion might delay the plan by a season.
But with PL back in the saddle then a re-run of the 2009 WF window is always a possibility.

2008/09 — 7 points ahead and our fall from grace includes a turgid no scoring draw away at Hibs.
Can lightning strike twice — well PL has already proven that it can so we may be in for a long season.

Jobo Baldie
October 30, 2023 9:13 am

Good morning, friends.
BAD at 8.10am – a very interesting thought provoking post. Just what are we watching, and paying for?

Ernie Lynch
October 30, 2023 9:34 am

I doubt it’s physical exhaustion that causes the post European game downturn, I suspect its more a psychological or attitudinal issue.

Squad rotation might be the easiest way to deal with it, but that doesn’t seem to be a viable option, what with one thing and another.

JimDom
October 30, 2023 9:48 am

Over the course of a season points will be dropped, it’s not reasonable to expect 38 wins from 38 games.

I was on the same page as Mahe with regards to team selection for the Hibs game. Play the usual 11 and bring the subs on after an hour. What happened on Saturday very nearly happened at Fir Park a few weeks ago. But at Easter Road the last gasp winner didn’t materialise.

The PLC should be judged on their actions rather than their words. If you wish to form your views based on the Annual Report, then fair enough.

What we do have is over 60 professional footballers on the payroll. I don’t know why we need that number and the Annual Report doesn’t tell. Brendan says he will work with the players he is given but how can he possibly get around every one of the bloated first team squad and give them the attention required. Not a chance but the PLC will keep throwing players at him.

Brendan was in the door early enough to influence the summer signings. Maybe he just decided to keep his powder dry and prioritise winning over the doubters among the support. The next two windows will be revealing. The core quality of the current squad comes from Ange’s first two transfer windows.

What the Annual Report does tell me is that Michael Nicholson earns £14K per week, and Chris McKay £10K per week. To trouser those eye watering salaries they should be in a position to explain why Celtic run with over 60 players, when only a fraction of those can feature on first team duty.

Perhaps at next month’s AGM each one of the top table will stand up and tell those in attendance what their role is in the running of the club. And that includes you, Brian Wilson.

Madmitch
October 30, 2023 10:13 am

JD @ 9.48

Not sure I get your angst over the 60 plus players under contract — that is the way teams of our stature operate.

26 plus in the first team squad with some being loans in from richer clubs.

Loans out — some for development and game time.
Some for wage sharing as they stagnate out the door as we are paying too much and can’t get it right all the time.
Apart from 20/21 when PL got it wrong all the time.

B Team — you pay the wages as they develop in the hope they make the first team.
Youth / U18’s — rinse and repeat as we try to fill the talent pipeline.
Just a case that ours is very leaky at the moment.

In that context I am surprised the number is not higher.

More interesting would be the coaching and support wage bill across the club.
Have any of our youth coaches made it big away from P/head?
Several hints that the youth coaching pool is an old pals act.
Stagnation abounds and that shows in our youth performance.

Madmitch
October 30, 2023 10:20 am

EL @ 9.34

CL Exhaustion — you are right / mental more than physical but low energy performance nevertheless.

Squad rotation — why are we not using it more?
Also mixing up the playing formation?

The subs on Saturday — and Wednesday for that matter — would suggest that BR is trying to build a narrative.
Get a message out to the support and the wider world that he cannot say directly.

Leggy
October 30, 2023 11:01 am

Good morning all,

Just a gentle reminder that The Shipbank Shipwrecks are assembling once again 🍺🍺

The big event is this coming Friday at 12.00 Noon.

New and old faces are always welcome 👍👍

BRRB, fresh from his stint liquidating vast amounts of pubs in Glasgow ( or Sober October as he calls it) and Belmont Brian with his fresh array of unfunny jokes, are just 2 of the star attractions.

So come along to the Shipbank in Glasgow on Friday and I’ll guarantee, you’ll have a great afternoon.

See you there ……….

HH 🍀🍀🍀

Just Sayin’
October 30, 2023 11:11 am

A lot of soul searching going on, but one thing we can’t blame is the “random” fixture scheduling that’s been quite kind to us.
We’ve played 4 of the bottom 6 away in the first 11 fixtures.

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 11:28 am

CT- I posted huns were a goal down,got 2 penalties and 9 minutes added

ASWGL
October 30, 2023 12:39 pm

It could be much worse, we could have signed Dessers and Lammers.

HH

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 1:10 pm

Hearing Hatate could be out for 10 weeks

timhorton
October 30, 2023 1:26 pm

Recruitment that is the name of the game………..i wouldn’t trust ML or father with 10-15 ml purchase of players.
Father and son act really sickens me unless the young man has a very good record at his ex employers…..so far poor with us.
I would give the two ch a pass for now.

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 1:49 pm

Alistair Johnston trained today

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 2:25 pm

Beaton MIB on Wednesday, Walsh on VAR, they’re trying hard

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 2:33 pm

November 1).

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Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 3:16 pm

The guy who killed the ice hockey player, will be lucky if he gets away with manslaughter

McCaff
October 30, 2023 3:41 pm

Bada!…by accounts of witnesses at the arena it was an accident, pure and simple. The player involved has been receiving abuse online but it appears it was a coming together as he lost his footing in a challenge.
It’s an absolute tragedy for all involved, the player who inflicted the cut and the family of Adam Johnson, especially!!
Echoes of Johnny Thomson…

Leggy
October 30, 2023 3:50 pm

Posted earlier but must have got lost in cyberspace 😲

Anyway,

The Shipbank Shipwrecks are meeting this Friday at 12.00 Noon.

Shipbank, Glasgow and all welcome.

Should be a great afternoon in fine company 👍🍺

I’ll see you there ……….

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 4:21 pm

McCaff- I won’t post the video mate,believe me it’s no accident

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 4:37 pm

McCaff- unless the video I got is a different incident….

Bada Bing
October 30, 2023 5:09 pm

https://youtu.be/YS4nOBoqUyk?si=tMI2DTYWaxscY6Sr

Brendan’s presser,Holm in the squad for Wednesday

Danny Mac 23
October 30, 2023 5:33 pm

Big Audio Dynamite/ Bada

The 90th minute penaly that Sevco got and needed could be given every week in every game but its not.The hoops gaining a point having drawn was unthinkable.This was their chance to reduce the deficit to 5 points or at least keep it at 7.On this evidence they can get a penalty as and when its needed.Is this corruption? Or is it hun refs seeing what they want to see? Both?

As disappointing as Celtic were on Saturday we can have flat games and as much as I dislike the European hangover scenario we were just not at it early.The tempo we had to achieve v A Madrid and the concentration required we found.How then v Hibs the guys who found that extra breath midweek that extra yard were found wanting at the weekend.You can only enjoy the jam of Champions League football if you win the bread and butter league games.

St Mirren midweek will be tough.Hopefully being at home if the players bring the right attitude and commitment aligned with our skill and ability we gain the 3 points.Win at Ross County when Sevco are on cup duty we can get back on track.

As was stated previosly though we cant be paranoid enough.We will win the league but the MIB are keeping them relevent and their deluded fan base engaged.

Sometimes you wonder….

16 roads
October 30, 2023 5:55 pm

We finished Saturday’s game with James Forrest, Mikey Johnston and David Turnbull on the park.

This would suggest to me that the manager doesn’t rate a lot of players/prospects foisted upon him, by the recruitment department.

The policy isn’t fit for purpose – it’s a drain on resources because you cannot sell footballers on who aren’t playing.

Bloated squad wages are still paid and contracts must be honoured.

Pointless and senseless signings.

Given time?

There is no time.

16 roads
October 30, 2023 6:01 pm

Not wishing to appear negative however expect more of the same in January – a few Nat Phillips type loans and two obscure £1.5million prospects.

Summer was the most disappointing window I can remember, therefore don’t be getting your hopes up and you won’t be disappointed again.

HH.🍀

Danny Mac 23
October 30, 2023 6:07 pm

16 Roads

Made that point in work today.

Jota Abada to Mikey and Jamesey.

If we are signing only 2 players in January you would hope they are experienced in the 27 to 30 age group that walk into the team or at least are options that can replace like for like.

If a Lubo type was available this current Celtic board would not sanction the deal.

Balance is key.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 30, 2023 6:11 pm

16ROADS

I didn’t think the recent transfer window was much better than the one in summer 2018. And that led to BR walking out.

16 roads
October 30, 2023 6:21 pm

BMCUWP – Apart from the fact that the club has a lot more money in the bank, hence the higher expectation levels.

HH.🍀

16 roads
October 30, 2023 6:34 pm

Danny Mac 23 – We’ve got a terrific first eleven chief.

Problem is we are never going to be able to field our strongest eleven every game,due to injury and what not.

It’s a long, tough season and when you look to the squad for adequate replacements – we don’t really have any real quality in reserve to call upon.

HH.🍀

Danny Mac 23
October 30, 2023 6:51 pm

16 Roads

Agree mate.Think Brendan is accentuating that point.With the amount of games we have to play you need to rotate and injuries apart I believe he is sticking as close to his best 11 that he can.If the quality in reserve is not fit for purpose that comes back to recruitment.BR by citing he is happy to develop the players he is given is highlighting exactly that,they are not ready.He almost seems to be distancing himself from the signings.When he said in his first press conference he was here for 3 years unless he was emptied that heightened my concerns.He has to deal with it.Restricted but will get on with it.

Pitymevin
October 30, 2023 6:52 pm

Who says it wasn’t a good window, we made another profit and is that not the point of this board.

All hail the board and their wonderful no ambition strategy.

timhorton
October 30, 2023 7:14 pm

Begs the question…….why did BR sign on he must have known if not he will walk.

Danny Mac 23
October 30, 2023 7:26 pm

Timhorton

Was he misled and having stated publicly he will be here for his contracted tenure cannot be seen to walk away?

SeS
October 30, 2023 7:34 pm

1987

After trophy-less 86/87 Season – Forthcoming 100th Anniversary required action/ or half a team:

McCarthy
Morris
Stark
Walker
McAvennie
Miller

Summer ’22:
Benjamin Siegrist ( ignored)
Alexandro Bernabei ( ignored)
Moritz Jenz (loan punted)
Aaron Mooy. ( was this ange?)
Sead Hakšabanović ( started but ignored)
Oliver Abildgaard (loan ignored)

January ’23:
Yuki Kobayashi (ignored)
Alistair Johnston ( direct for Juranovic)
Tomoki Iwata (was this ange but ignored)
Oh Hyeon-gyu ( started but ignored)

Summer ’23:

“Pace & Power ….”

Odin Thiago Holm (started but injured(edit)ignored)
Marco Tilio (injured)
Yang Hyun-jun ( ignored)
Kwon Hyeok-kyu (ignored)
Maik Nawrocki (injured)
Gustaf Lagerbielke. (Injured)
Luis Palma ( player utilised)
Nat Phillips (loan injured)
Paulo Bernardo (loan utilised)

Craig 76
October 30, 2023 7:55 pm

SES
Holm could get his chance now that Reo is out for a long spell

SeS
October 30, 2023 7:57 pm

How ye Craig

Aye Holm could do a job buddy.

Rebus67
October 30, 2023 7:58 pm

I am reading the views on the summer transfer window with interest. I do not think most are taking a balanced view of it. A club like Celtic cannot just keep buying players without getting rid of deadwood. The last window was quite successful in that respect. TEN players were either transferred out or loaned out with options to make the loan permanent. The expensive problem children Barkas and Ajeti were either freed or sold respectively. Soro was mutually consented. The former Sheffield duo Shaw and Urhoghide were loaned/sold. Hazard was sold. Haksa, Kenny, Ideguchi were loaned with a buy option. Montgomery was loaned.

In addition, we had real transfers/exits of Jota, Starfelt and Mooy. In total 13 players left the club during the summer window. Not is a fair whack. Overall, that is a successful culling exercise but a testament to poor targeting.

We had ten coming in….eight purchases and two loans. I have divided the incoming group into three segments: first team starters( Nawrocki, Palma, and Lagerbielke); Projects(Holm, Yang, Tilio, Kwon, Iwata); Loans(Phillips and Bernado). You could argue that Iwata is not a project and is first tram ready. Nawrocki looked the real deal until his injury, and replaces Starfelt. Lagerbielke would probably not have been purchased if Scales had been assessed properly. Phillips is cover for CCV and Welsh and will probably exit at Xmas. Palma is a replacement for Jota and may get to his level but is not there yet.

A valid critique is our recruitment of starters left us weaker after the exits of Jota, Starfelt and Mooy. We did not recruit in the 6-8 million range a la CCV and Jota. I think expectations, including my own, were that we would target that type of player. In particular, Jota is a CL level player with 28 goals in 83 games for us, plus 26 assists…..big shoes that have, as yet, not been filled. Herein lies the disappoint with the window.

The real failure in the window is found in the Project segment. Holm looks the best of the bunch. Tilio, Kwon seem like busts right from the Go. Yang is no better than Mikey, arguably not as good. Iwata, as mentioned, is first team We spunked 8.3 million euros on Holm, Yang, Tilio, Kwon. Is that better than spending 7 million on one quality player? Of the projects only Holm looks like he could increase his value and repay the total outlay on projects…A very iffy scenario.

One last comment on our targeting…our top four expenditures, Nawrocki, Palma, Lagerbielke, Holm came from clubs with player pools valued at a fraction of our own. Celtic’s squad is valued around 126 m euros. Our target clubs squads were valued at 39, 27, 18, and 13 m euros. Why do we not target clubs at or above our level?

Rebus

Craig 76
October 30, 2023 8:01 pm

All good here SES

BRENDAN RODGERS confirmed on Monday afternoon something that many fans had been puzzled about; the whereabouts of Odin home from the Celtic squad.
The player isn’t established at this point, but he’s been on the bench more often than not until the last couple of games.

When Rodgers has given updates over the last couple of weeks on his players and their fitness, Odin’s name hadn’t come up, leaving many fans to speculate he wasn’t making the matchday squad.

However, Rodgers cleared things up during his Celtic Youtube press conference and revealed the player has been out with injury, although the Irishman didn’t specify what type of injury the young midfielder was carrying.

I think fans want to see Odin, Bernardo, Turnbull and Iwata really push themselves as one of them looks to establish themselves in the team while Reo Hatate is out injured. The Japanese midfielder is not due back until the new year after tearing his hamstring. It presents an opportunity for Holm and others to really showcase what they can do.

Rodgers has confirmed Holm will be in the squad on Wednesday against St Mirren, the youngster is unlikely to start given he’s just back from an injury.

Odin has made 6 appearances for the Scottish Champions so far; five from the bench and one start in the league Cup.

SFTB
October 30, 2023 8:01 pm

Wee reminder that Superbru starts again tomorrow night at 7.45 pm

Leggy
October 30, 2023 8:08 pm

SeS,

Great to see you posting 👍

The Shipbank awaits 😁😁😁