Stuff Of Nightmares

Morning,all.

It’s a truism in football,as in all sports,that the only important thing about a semi final is that you come out on top-which is just as well since Saturday was otherwise a day to forget for a lot of us. At just over three hours from first kick to last,we certainly got our moneysworth,and it was probably one of those occasions that another cliché would mark down as a great game for the neutral. 

For the dyed-in-the-wool fan,it was bloody torture! Even more so of course for the Aberdeen fans,who are more dyed-in-the-wool than most. Which is a disgraceful slur on a fine group of fans,many of whom sacrificed their opportunity to attend in person so that another Celtic supporter could take their place on the day. 

I thought it was a terrific advert for Scottish football,if I’m honest. Much better than the over-hyped borefest at Wembley later the same day. The surface was as good as I’ve seen at Hampden for a long time,and the elements did their best to add to the occasion by allowing the game to take place in almost perfect conditions. And both sets of players clearly enjoyed it so much that they wanted to play all day!

This was Celtic in our best of times and our worst of times. The ability to get our noses in front despite a generally below par performance,and an incredible talent for shooting ourselves in the foot right at the death. How many times have we lost vital late goals this season? It was once our very own secret weapon-and often seen to best effect at Hampden itself. On Saturday,we lost carbon-copy equalisers right at the death in both normal and extra time. Unforgivable,and that is the truth of the matter. We even had the chance to clinch it with the final spot kick of our allocated five,but passed that up in favour of putting the fans through the wringer for a few more minutes. 

A good game for the neutral,maybe. It was bloody torture for the fans. Especially ones with long memories. For two of the defining games in our decline of the early nineties came at the same venue. One was a final against Aberdeen in 1990,the other a semi the following year against Motherwell. Neither were great games,each of them summed up the times for us. 

1990 saw us in the final against Aberdeen,our last chance to rescue something from the ashes of a dreadful season. We had finished FIFTH in the league,and could have no complaints about it either. We saved our best performances for the cup,and even beat R1ngers on the way there on St Patrick’s Day. Instead of seeing one of our cup performances in the final,the fans saw exactly why we had finished fifth in the table that year. No goals and precious little football,even after 120 minutes of attrition. And so to penalties and the infamous “Aw naw,it’s Anton” moment. 

No offence to our Centenary Season hero Anton Rogan,who was a committed left back during his time with us. He was our last outfield player to take a kick that day,and Wdowczyk had already put us on the back foot by missing the first one. Deadly from free kicks no matter the distance,the big fella screwed up from twelve yards. As did Anton. When the next Aberdeen player,Brian Irvine,scored with his kick,Anton just wanted the ground to open up for him. I’ve never held his miss that day against Anton,but there’s a reason why he didn’t have much experience with penalties!

I honestly think that our defeat the following season was even worse. For we lost this one in a semi final (see my first paragraph about the only important thing about these occasions.) And to add insult to injury,we lost it after a replay,which is the first time I can remember that happening to us in a semi. I was at Rugby Park in 1978 when we lost a replay to Kilmarnock in an early round. But not in a semi,oh no. It wouldn’t be the last time that happened either,as Falkirk proved only a few years later. 

As was the case a year earlier,the regulation ninety finished goalless. The rules dictated a replay,and on a truly miserable night,Celtic were hammered 4-2. I won’t dwell on the match itself for the result was probably the beginning of the end for our legendary captain and manager Cesar. And as we know,there was a long way down before things could get better! 

I only mention these dark events from the past as a reminder that Saturday could have been a lot worse. It didn’t end 0-0,for starters. And we won in the end. But some of my happier memories of Hampden include our memorable late goals as we pulled victory from the jaws of defeat. We reversed that trend on Saturday by almost pulling defeat from the jaws of victory THREE times,but the important thing is that we won. Performance doesn’t matter on such occasions,the stats only record the final result. 

The outcome from the weekend is that the media and our opponents can salivate at the prospect of an O** F*** final for the first time since 2002. Celtic fans can look forward to a Glasgow Derby on the same day. There is added spice to the occasion as one side will be looking to round off a magnificent season for the stats with either a double or a treble,while the other side will be hoping to spike that by depriving them of the cup. The stats won’t record that each side has been bloody awful far too often this season,hitting the heights far too infrequently. 

It’s back to the league at the weekend,and our turn for a wet suit and a diving helmet at Dens Park. It’s the business end of the season,as we are all aware. Saturday was three hours of bedlam and excitement charting the highs and lows of being a football supporter,as well as giving us six goals into the bargain. Coincidentally,we have six games left in our season,and I would settle for another six goals in all. 

Six 1-0 victories between now and a famous date in the Celtic calendar. 25th of May. What a day that would be to clinch a double,huh? And six humdrum victories in single goal affairs is just the way to do it,in my opinion. Enough of this excitement stuff,enough of this good game for the neutral nonsense. After all,we have our blood pressure to worry about too these days!!!
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Above article by BMCUWP

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BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 23, 2024 1:58 am

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Just Sayin’
April 23, 2024 4:16 am

Regarding tough semi finals I repeat, as a support we have a tendency to overlook the fact that other teams are entitled to ask questions, play to their strengths and compete. Cup football is particularly unpredictable.
Poor as we undoubtedly were we faced a fully committed Aberdeen team with a one off shot at a final. Under new, but absent, management.
Players keen to impress.
A couple of highly motivating features there.
We looked as if we just needed to turn up to be guaranteed the win. The first two minutes disabused us of that notion and it was game on.

Hopefully Aberdeen have done us a favour and knocked any complacency( provided by Hun ineptitude ) in our performance out of us.

Looking forward, since our loss to Hearts in early March we’ve scored three goals in each of our five games. These are needed to avoid defeat!

We are obviously making and taking chances.
We need to in order to compensate for our sieve in defence.

Watching us hold a one goal lead per game will be an even more excruciating watch. With potentially a high attrition rate amongst the support!

No excuses in our next couple of games. Time to focus, grasp the opportunities and get the points
on the board. We will not cure our defensive ills because we don’t have the personnel to effectively change things for the better unless Nawrocki comes in or, more controversially, Ralston at left back is decided on as a panic measure. Our pathetic recruitment laid bare right there.
I assume we carry on regardless hoping for goals from the usual sources- Kyogo Kühn O’Riley Forrest Idah have all scored two or more in our last five.

The third game takes care of itself.

This league is there to be won.

Pitymevin
April 23, 2024 6:53 am

Mags, you are completely right, this is the conundrum. We win the league and it gives the board justification with their signing policy. We lose the league and it ultimately gives the board exactly, in my opinion, what they want, a financially secure sevco.

Sevco will spend, spend, spend. In the meantime Celtic will be in turmoil, undoubtedly BR will leave.

We need to get this over the line, and that will place pressure on the board with north of £130 million in the bank.

Their mask slipped, and they didn’t expect the backlash from all quarters around the £70 million in the bank. Even the biggest supporters of the board can’t defend this hoarding of cash when the league is so tight.

I really hope this is our season.

Hoop hoop hooray
April 23, 2024 7:03 am

Three points in front with a home derby to come, it would be criminal if we throw it away now. Just as it was criminal to throw away the 7 point lead we had earlier. Just as it was criminal to lose all those late goals to sheep huns killie motherwell etc. If and when we get over the line the celebrations and the season’s post mortems will start. And there has to be both. I can enjoy rollercoaster seasons but not when we have one barrel of the gun consistently pointed at our big toe.

16 roads
April 23, 2024 7:14 am

Excellent read BMCUWP.

Some bad memories from the early 90’s certainly puts any perceived issues with today’s Celtic into perspective.

One of those Motherwell games I attended.

Hampden Park is one of world football’s iconic grounds – was thinking during Saturday’s game that the new stadium is an absolute disgrace, compared to the other national stadiums.

The Scottish people deserve a lot better than that.

Anyway as you say in the article – the main thing was the result, and we are through to the final.

Let’s focus on winning the thing.

HH.🍀

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 23, 2024 7:39 am

JUSTSAYIN

Good point,all those tight 1-0 wins would frazzle the nerves. But the way we are leaking goals at the moment is driving us nuts. Me anyway. I think I’d rather have the 1-0 wins and my fingernails chewed to the quick than risk apoplexy like I did on Saturday and two weeks beforehand.

Auldbhoy67
April 23, 2024 8:32 am

6 games to go and if we play like we did Saturday it will be a long 6 games. Of those 6 games IMHO the 2 hard ones are Hearts who have beaten us twice this season albeit one was a total stitch up and Kilmarnock on Scotlands worst surface even in the rain. The positive side is since Jan 1st we have scored over 40 goals and at times played some excellent football. Of the 3 other teams involved in our games none have beaten us. The R2ngers have only won 4 games in their last 10 but somehow even with the help of mibs are now going to put a run of 6 straight wins together to win a treble.
Where is that form coming from.
St Mirren are always a difficult one but surely a home game for the end of season is in our favour and Dundee have lost heavily every game.
This league is definitely there to be won.

Positiveattitude.csc

Sol Kitts
April 23, 2024 9:18 am

A very happy birthday to Mrs Kitts, my dear wife who keeps me as near to sensible as I am capable of.

SteveNaive
April 23, 2024 9:38 am

Anton Rodgers…Roy Rodgers more like.
I quite liked Anton ever since the mid week cup game at Firhill where, trying to put a free kick down the line, he put it out of play.
Referee sees some infringement and he has to take it again whereupon the bold Anton does exactly the same thing.
I was right in line with him and couldn’t help but laugh.
I see his CSC banner at games.

Auldheid
April 23, 2024 9:43 am

Fan

The ending to your comment about BR’s coaching with a list of areas that have not improved some that I agree with, especially throw ins only reinforces my point about not making a silk purse out of a pigs ear when you stated

“Likewise any player either”

Coaching can only bring out what is there in a player.

On giving players a chance I think that in selecting Yang in Maeda’s absence BR was between a rock and a hard place. His expectation of Yang must have been he would trouble Aberdeen on the left.

Not once did that happen because the lad has his limits.

Compare to James Forrest who not only scored a JF goal but sent a slide rule pass to AJ to cross and the difference in levels of what is required is stark.

Sol Kitts
April 23, 2024 9:52 am

Who is this Anton Rogers? I preferred the Rogan bloke 🤣🤣

Bada Bing
April 23, 2024 10:17 am

FA Cup to kick off at 3pm,we’ll see if Maxwell caves in and lies again…..

Prestonpans bhoys
April 23, 2024 10:27 am

Bada

It certainly will not be a 5:30 kickoff like the Inverness game, the police will not allow it. If he capitulates then it’s more likely to be noon or 12:30.

Auldbhoy67
April 23, 2024 10:48 am

Beaton for this week with Dallas on VAR. Stepping up the cheating again post split.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 23, 2024 11:18 am

Happy Hooooopy Birthday to Mrs K!!!!!

👏⭐️💚

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 23, 2024 11:20 am

Anton Rogers?!!!

Brain fade…

Lost in translation ...
April 23, 2024 11:21 am

BMCUW

First up — I thought the pitch was poor for our game.
TV view — Very long / bobbly / ball didn’t roll well.
Pitch looked better for the Sunday game.

Next — SC seems to be attracting a wide range of cheerleaders.
Well known BR groupie for one — Jimmy Osmond fan to boot.
Now we have a NL acolyte as well.
Best of luck.

Ludge MIB / Ludge VAR — they are turning it up to 11.
5 game stretch in the SPL — if you are going for the honest mistake angle.
Better to do it early / do it often.

We should be keeping scores for the run in.
For and against / us vs them / our opponents and their opponents.
They will not be able to hide it — they are addicted to Govan FC boosterism.
Plus they must be running a book on who can get away with the most egregious “decision” to hurt us.
Bit like 90’s Strathclyde plod running a book to see who could lift the guy with the most Irish sounding name.
Some of them are just so bitter that they just can’t help it.
The issue is to make sure it gets publicity.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 23, 2024 11:22 am

AULDBHOY 67

The gene pool of Scottish referees is notoriously small. But that’s no excuse for giving us a mix of three or four at most.

Bada Bing
April 23, 2024 11:25 am

PB- I think it will be 12.30

Lost in translation ...
April 23, 2024 11:26 am

JF — every angle on show.
Lost a 60/40 and scored with a veggie shot.
Veggies shot — chipped it in as he didn’t want to hurt the leather in his boots.

Played some good stuff but his flaws were on show as well.
His experience shone brightly in a sea of plooky youth not used to a Hampden SF.
Still playing only half his game / half his ability.

Auldbhoy67
April 23, 2024 11:28 am

Bmcwpp
Aye but it doesn’t mean we get 2 huns every game. It’s getting ridiculous.

Lost in translation ...
April 23, 2024 11:35 am

BMCUW @ 11.20

Ludge MIB — small gene pool.
Points to a clique within a clique.
Most might not like us but only a few actually hate / detest us.
Some might be Govan fan boys on occasion but have professional pride in other games.
Others might be sleekit and work assiduously for our failure.

Points to a well connected central core within the SPL MIB group who are actively engaged in hurting us.
Not everyone — that would be a security risk / someone would blab — but a central core who do the organising and planning.

The weekend MIB / VAR mix would suggest that we are getting their aces / crack troops for our next game.

Bada Bing
April 23, 2024 11:38 am

Auldbhoy67- the huns get their pal Walsh…..

Leftclicktic
April 23, 2024 11:45 am

Happy Hooooooopy birthday to Mrs Sol Kitts

Big Audio Dynamite
April 23, 2024 11:47 am

Imagine liking a winning Celtic manager ..

What is the world coming to?

Wow, they really do hate that man!

Brilliant!!

McCaff
April 23, 2024 11:52 am

Morning all!
Thoughts and good wishes please for my brother in law who is currently undergoing massive surgery to remove bad stuff from his internal organs. He’s been waiting on word to go in for this surgery as his first was unsuccessful a couple of years ago. He got an unexpected call yesterday to go in today at 7.30 and was taken to theatre at 9am this morning.
There’s good to be had from this if it’s successful but so many potential problems!
🙏🙏🙏

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 23, 2024 11:55 am

MCCAFF

Best wishes to all concerned,mate.

Big Audio Dynamite
April 23, 2024 12:08 pm

McCaff,

All the best to the family mate.

A Thing Of Beauty
April 23, 2024 12:17 pm

McCaff,
Thoughts with your brother in law.
Sol,
Happy birthday to your good lady. Patience of a saint to put up with bmcuwp 😂😂
As for referees. When was the last time we had Clancy or Collum do our games? I ask because they are referred to as the uncle Tim’s by other supporters and it’s seems incongruous how few games they get of ours. Beaton must have seen Celtic more often this season than some of our season ticket holders when you combine home and away games. I should add that Clancy and Collum are hopeless like the rest of them but they are conspicuous by their absence.

San Luis
April 23, 2024 12:20 pm

Hampden is indeed a National disgrace, but again we can thank our friends in Govan for kiboshing the entire redevelopment of it in early 80s, by advising senior Scottish Ministers it wasn’t required as Ibrox was now fully seated.

They were certainly the Establishment Club back then under Thatcher rule.

A Thing Of Beauty
April 23, 2024 12:30 pm

Confirmed there will be no Scottish referees at the euros. That’s the last four tournaments we have not had any representation from our officials. That’s what happens when you don’t do your job properly. Nae sympathy from me.

Lost in translation ...
April 23, 2024 12:41 pm

SL @ 12.20

You have a long memory — lots has happened since then.
Looking back with 40 years of hindsight — it is the small potatoes angle / the nickel and diming that gets you.

The builder mob then in charge of Govan FC (iL) wanted a few games to help pay the bills.
Their footballing talents were in free fall but free money was first on their agenda.
Thatcher and her acolytes were only interested in saving pennies any way they could.
Her wanting to save pennies caused the Falklands War so no surprises there then.

Ideological hatred of public investment / community owned assets / society in general was her mantra.
So she was going to listen to anyone who could offer her an alternative and publicly save money.

Things come and go — 70% of Hampden needs an upgrade.
We need a new North Stand and we need more facilities / better public realm.

Biggest issue at the moment is the klondyking that would happen if an upgrade was on the agenda.
Rapacious contractors and a gold plating SFA would generate a budget that would become unaffordable very quickly.

Building the new Jerusalem — it is not about the money it is about the management / the delivery / the political bandwidth.
Now where did I leave my copy of the Red Flag …

San Luis
April 23, 2024 1:05 pm

LiT

Agreed.

There was a point in early /mid 80s were I genuinely thought there was a good chance to topple her government, mainly during the Miners strike and the sustained attacks on British soil by the IRA as well as a well organised left wing movement of youth culture and old time commies in Liverpool, Glasgow ,London etc.

I was wrong.

Ps. Anyone watched the Corbyn documentary on You tube yet?

weefra
April 23, 2024 1:31 pm

Afternoon all. HH

Auldbhoy67
April 23, 2024 1:44 pm

BB1
Walsh (who should be nowhere near a hun game) regardless its been 12 Premiership games since Hearts beat R2ngers. You have to go back to 2020. The time before that was also 12 league games which takes you back to 2017.
Barry the bawbag Ferguson trying to say they don’t lie down to the Huns but the stats say differently.
That’s twice they have won in 24 league fixtures. They have Beaton us twice in 3 this season.

Lost in translation ...
April 23, 2024 2:13 pm

SL @ 1.05

Looking back there were a lot of dynamics in play at the time — 79 till 87’ish.

North Sea Oil
EEC engagement.
TB and his dreaming / AES.
Print media influence / agenda.
Right wing mentalists finding a figurehead in MT.
Outside influences — USA / CIA in one corner with SU efforts in another.
Interesting how quite a few voices went quiet after 1989 — the brown envelopes must have stopped.

No quite with you on a number of your points.
Miners — MMcG was the threat they feared not AS so we got AS.
Undemocratic physical Force Republicanism / Hyper masculinity / gangsterism …
All they would have generated was a military coup with people on the streets shegging flegs.
If Derek Hatton was ever the answer to anything then I have no idea what the question is or was.

Militant were working to an external agenda — you can guess who’s?
My money is on anti Lab skirmishers to scare Forger’s Gazette readers.
Tax office crew I met had some brains but too many were just there for the sloganeering.

JC doc — half way through.
Highlights other stuff I need to watch.
JC — not a fan but he moved the needle in 2017 with some good ideas.
His efforts in 2019 were shocking — phoned it in with a student dinner manifesto.

Pretty obvious who was out to get him and why — BoJo’s little helpers / wouldn’t work quite as well now.
BN really is as thick as shi* at the neck of a bottle — eventually enough will find this out.
Their external political support is halving every 90 days.

Soon their will be no one left apart from right wing mentalists.
Who will drop them when it suits and return to form.

All of which suggest that the anti-Zionist viewpoint was right all along.
When land becomes important then Jewish “exceptionalism” will corrode / disappear.
They would change from being a religion to being a nationality.
And nationalism has never been their friend.

AweNaw
April 23, 2024 2:16 pm

McCaff,

Good luck to your brother in law

Fritzsong
April 23, 2024 2:48 pm

I see that Beaton and Dallas have been given oversight of our game in Dundee. Given that Notts Forest took to ‘X’ on Sunday to amplify its allegation of bias, I wonder if that particular furore will give our two brethren pause for thought on Tayside in 5 days.

AweNaw
April 23, 2024 2:58 pm

What’s that old adage; The league table never lies. We won the league last year by 3 points and a goal difference of +5. Cue the aye buts … 🙂 against Beale ball. Beale afterwards went on a 20m quid spend. We replaced Jota with Palma. Mooy with Kwon. Starfeldt with Scales. Carsten Carter Vickers was still recovering from surgery when we done this. We weren’t to know that Adaba was about to down tools and look for a quick exit. Brendan Rodgers comes back and the CQN SVDP on steroids brigade expect him to become a convert to the Lawwell Jnr. web page content managers statistical obsession method of recruitment not to mention the utter incompetence of indulging him, a newbie effectively, with a 15m quid budget

Let’s not gloss over the abundance of posts on SC thinking/trumpeting we had turned the corner with our new recruitment team and the new C.E. and that it wasn’t solely down to Ange. CQN spent the first half of this season undermining Brendan Rodgers at the expense of Lawwell jnr and his mate. Thankfully they’ve had their arses kicked out the door mhhhhh… How can this be ? I don’t even believe that action has been done in the hope that it’s a proviso that Brendan will still stick around. It’s because they were shite at their jobs. Ange said this..Ange done that…Ange fucked off at the first opportunity that’s what happened and told you anything that would make it easier for himself to fuck off.

So here we are again 3 points ahead and a goal difference of +5 and this time 70m in the bank 81m if you account for the sales of Turnbull and Adaba and it’s all Brendan Rodgers fault that he hasn’t developed the players of those who have been fired into top quality players. Ange made similar sums with the loss of Juranovic and Giakomakuis. Anyone see a pattern here ?

I reckon if Carsten Carter Vickers, Hatate and McGregor had the same fitness levels as they did last season we’d be further ahead.

I hope Brendan Rodgers stays at Celtic in situ. I will be very surprised if he sticks around. I hope he does.

AN ABSOLUTE HUN SKELPING CELTIC LEGEND

Rebus67
April 23, 2024 3:17 pm

McCaff,

All the best to your brother in law. Surgeries are life events.

Rebus

Big Audio Dynamite
April 23, 2024 4:10 pm

Awe naw, 2.58

Great post!

Bada Bing
April 23, 2024 4:28 pm

15 quid to watch the Kilmarnock game at the Kerrydale,getting ripped off at every turn

The Star Above The Crest
April 23, 2024 4:50 pm

McCaff,

Best wishes to the family mate.

HH ☘️ ☘️ ☘️

Sol Kitts
April 23, 2024 5:06 pm

McCaff
Best wishes to your brother in law.

Auldheid
April 23, 2024 5:09 pm

McCaff

Hope it all goes well for your b.i.l

Magua
April 23, 2024 5:14 pm

McCaff

Best wishes for the family at this worrying time. 🙏

Hail Hail.

Auldheid
April 23, 2024 5:16 pm

LiT

JF — every angle on show.
Lost a 60/40 and scored with a veggie shot.
Veggies shot — chipped it in as he didn’t want to hurt the leather in his boots.

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A Veggies shot?

It was a Barnes Walllace special. A bouncing bomb of an effort that only JF can do because he knows how to strike a ball by shaping his foot to get the right effect.

Craig 76
April 23, 2024 5:16 pm

Heart’s haven’t tried against their big cousins in at least 5 years
https://x.com/AgentScotland/status/1782711718214344857