No Irish, No Blacks, No Fear

Over the last few months the expression Hun has been bothering me. In an attempt to get behind this unease I’ve even researched the word’s origins and tried to placate the growing sense of dread the word causes when I come across it.

 

This wasn’t always the case. I’m no saint and in no position to cast any stones. But the word has been bugging me. What is it about this piece of Glasgow banter? This dark feeling just wouldn’t go away. On the morning of the last Sevco game I saw a photograph of a banner hanging from a roadbridge in Glasgow. It had the letters KAH proudly embossed on it. KAH is an abbreviation for Kill All Huns.

 

My disquiet grew.

 

After the Motherwell game I had a eureka moment.

 

I went for a stroll, still bothered by this lingering unease. It was a glorious, autumnal Sunday afternoon and I wandered among brilliantly vibrant, crimson trees. The answer that had eluded me for weeks suddenly arrived.

 

The words “It’s fear.” Reverberated somewhere within me. After a few seconds my inner voice repeated, “It’s fear.” I felt a huge release of tension.

 

The unmasking of fear is really one of life’s great liberations. It’s unmasking gives birth to a feeling of unparalleled joy. Blocked and uncharted depths of the psyche begin to open up.

 

The veil was torn down. All of the disquiet about words like Hun, were really Fear’s desperate attempt to maintain control.

 

Suddenly all the fragmented pieces of the jigsaw began to come beautifully together into a perfect whole.

 

Fear is the implicit foundation that manifests explicitly in racism, gender bias, homophobia, sectarianism and virtually every poison that comes to mind. Fear contaminates our everyday thoughts, feelings, speech, and actions.

 

It lurks in the background behind rationalism, dogma and doctrine. It’s manipulates our votes or behaviour, our religion, our nationality. Fear creates the illusion of seperation.It often masquerades as depression, anxiety, anger and resentment.

 

Celtic Football Club fed and sustained many of our ancestors. The young club provided an oasis free from the fear of prejudice, poverty and the sorrow that many of our people courageously endured in the cold Glasgow tenements.

 

It’s pertinent and humbling that one of our most loved anthems provides the reassurance, “Don’t be afraid of the dark.”

 

Fear was the shadow that tormented the Irish immigrant on a daily basis. Fear even dominated hopes of the afterlife. The terror of Purgatory and the eternal torment of the ‘Bad Fire’ accompanied every natural temptation.

 

Fear is cunning. It thrives in secrecy, power and rumour. It’s a bully. It can’t be ran away from. It can’t be suppressed or sedated. It’s like a karma and can pass from one generation to the next.

 

The use of the word Hun is a manifestation of deeply rooted, often inherited fears. It’s fear projecting to label and divide.

 

I’ve known for years that the din of the Lambeg drum was all about fear. That the squadies absailing from the roof of Ibrox, while soldiers play-fight on the pitch was a show of strength to assuage the fears of the support

 

It’s taken me a long time to see that many of my thoughts and actions were the response to fear. Fears that were germinated by the landlord and the Blight, the authority of the pulpit, the politician and malice of the Gombeen.

 

There’s a irony in the fact that the word Hun provided the key that unlocked the sarcophagus of An Gorta Mór. It’s fears and trauma. The lock to that fearful tomb is an unusual one. It’s found on the inside.

 

Fear fuelled the continuity myth. The Five Way Agreement and the missing £10 million per annum. Fear sells Season Books and keeps us awake at night. Our people have been dominated and lost to fear for long enough. When it’s the time to let go of fear…You’ll know.

 

When I got home there was an uplifting story on the Irish news. The Red Squirrel has made a comeback and has forced the Grey Squirrel out of many counties of the island.

 

Another indigenous, predatory species, the Pine Marten has assisted the revival.

 

There’s something magical in nature.

 

By The Gombeen Man

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Thetic

Gombean Man had to look it up. I bet you are far from being your chosen moniker.
If my fear of not winning the ten to the Huns keeps me on edge it’s because all they have put us through. False contracts, bent refs, bent SFA, EBTs, false entry into Europe ,liquidated but called relegated and I have always wondered if they paid the fee for Walters to leave Hampden to return to Ibrox and I know there is lots more to add
I hope by the end of May I have lost my fear then I will think about dropping the word Hun (I have cousins who are The Rangers supporters I don’t think of them as Huns) I am glad you have lost your fear I bet you hope I will to
Great Post today

Noel Skytrot

The term hun is reserved for a certain type of Rangers supporter/ player whereas the people who just go and support their team are Rangers fans. For me there’s a difference.

Friesdorfer

The Gombeen Mhan
Outstanding article, very insightful indeed. I recognise and agree with everything you say, although I, too, have a TRangers supporting brother-in-law who is a great guy and never a Hun.
“There is nothing to fear but fear itself…”

On a positive note, great result for Scotland last night, but couldn’t understand the subs which, for me, upset the balance and rhythm of the team – still, all’s well that ends well. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
HH

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THEGOMBEENMAN

A very well-articulated article. And yes,I particularly understand your points about fear being used as a tool against us. Fear is,I suppose,ingrained to us from an early age-whether it be The Bogey Man or Wee Willie Winkie,hell and damnation,a trip to the heidie etc,you name it and we were taught to fear it.

It was to keep us in line,of course. And we put away childish things.

My parents’ generation and their forebears were taught to fear debt-now the world economy survives only because of it,even as it has made prisoners of so many. Unemployment too,yet economists insist that a certain level of unemployment is a requirement in society. Maybe we have had enough of experts after all?

But huns? No,we don’t use the term in fear nor even in hatred. It’s merely an attributive noun-and a very apt one at that. As has already been said by THETIC and NOELSKYTROT,not all of those who support Rangers are huns-after all,most of us have friends like that. But as you also point out,not all huns are Rangers fans.

This last decade has been an eyeopener in many respects,but that may be the biggest boot to the bollocks for the average Celtic supporter,-that we have An Enemy Within.

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NAPSTERS,follow the link…

https://sentinelcelts.com/?p=5808

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FRIESDORFER

He got one sub right,at least-brought on Griff for the penalties!

Btw,I said last night that I was delighted for Stevie Clarke and the players,the SFA not so much. Damned with faint praise,as is my wont. I should in actual fact have been more fulsome.

Scotland beat a higher-ranked team on their own turf,despite the blow of a last-minute equaliser and extra time. But the real praise is for the penalties. Five out of five is outstanding at any level.

A thing of beauty

TGM,
Thanks for the article. I feel very much and have explained before that hun is a mindset and as has been stated by everyone so far we certainly do not fear them. Pity them, yes, fear them, never.
Again not all Rangers fans are Huns and not all Huns are Rangers fans. It’s a mindset of superiority which believes in perpetuating the myth that they are superior to others. It’s is as prevalent at ibrox when they are singing rule Britannia as it is in the royal Albert hall when they are singing the same song. Superiority, we are the people nonsense.
I don’t know where you live TGM but I am in Ayrshire and exist amongst these people everyday. I have increasingly noticed a problem in the last two years or so with graffiti purporting to support the union bears and the ultra celts. First off I will say that in the last month or so I have noticed a few stickers with the letters KAH. That saddens me. Not because of the word hun but because people associated with my club have sunk to their level. We have never celebrated violence in our songs and for people to think that is acceptable point scoring disappoints me. We are better than that. EAH would be my slogan, Educate All Huns because if the graffiti I saw yesterday was anything to go by they need it. A wall was covered in new graffiti. A heart with WLM inside it alongside the usual KAT. They also had the UB tag and 0-2 but that is by the by. What we have here is young people around the age of 16-25 as that’s the core following of the Union bears, who have a mindset that they are superior to people of a different race and religion. That sort of shit needs a collective name and Huns suits them perfectly. Until they choose to think differently or we can educate them to think differently they will always be Huns to me.

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I forgot that the draw for the finals had already been made. Same group as Croatia,England,Czech Republic. Or 4,5,42 in latest FIFA standings. Scotland are 39.

Should be straightforward enough…

The Gombeen Man

Thanks everyone for the responses. Busy today but will pop in later.
Chuffed for Scotland. I’m afraid big Shane wasn’t great at Wembley last night. I stopped watching with 20minutes to go.

ATOB,
I thought for a minute EAT was going to be Eat All Huns…A bit ott even by Ayrshire standards…😂. Thanks for the reply.

Mahe,

Thanks for posting. I saw your post yesterday about history etc. No probs, I’ll do bits and pieces.

Till later

bada bing1

Huns then,huns now,huns forever.

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Scotland play Croatia and Czech Republic at Hampden,apparently. England have all three games at Wembley. Including an 8pm Friday night game v Scotland. That will be fun for the cops both in London and Glasgow.

Oglach

TGM

I can unequivocally state i DO NOT FEAR THE HUN – I DETEST THEM as i detest Nazis and all other political / cultural / religious isms that seek to denigrate and subjugate others for being different to their own warped ideology or mad theories on eugenics.

we all know what a Hun is CSC

Billy Bhoy

I’ll tell you what a hun is.

A hun is a guy who was born in Leeds 24 years ago, still lives there, and doesn’t join in with his Sheffield United teammates when they do a huddle because there’s a team in Glasgow who do a huddle.

To show just how big a hun he is he refused to join in with the Scotland players when Steve Clarke called a huddle at FT last night. He stood upright behind them.

Yes, I noticed you McBurnie!

Ayrshire Bhoy

Billy Bhoy

Must have been the only thing mcburnie did all night. That guy is as crap a player as I have ever seen.

Ayrshire Bhoy

A thing of beauty

I too live in Ayrshire (hence the name) and its getting back to being pretty disturbing around here again. Was very quiet for a few years could barely spot a rangers top anywhere but as you say they only appear when winning. A lot of people I know who are rangers fans are starting to display sides of them I had never seen until lately and I cant say I like it.

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Last night wasn’t the first time that Stevie Clarke played a part in getting a country to the finals of The European Championship. The first time was in 1987 for the finals the following year.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/that-1980s-sports-blog/2020/nov/12/jack-charlton-republic-of-ireland-euro-88-scotland

That year,Celtic were going for The Centenary Double. The article points out that Souness withdrew McCoist,Gough,Durrant from the squad,presumably to avoid injury in a game which could only benefit Ireland,not Scotland.

With due respect to THEGOMBEENMAN and his article today,THAT is the behaviour of a hun.

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AYRSHIREBHOY

They crawl out from beneath their stones when they get a sniff of winning. If they bother you,ask if they fancy discussing the last decade or so-that always works for me when I nip home for a visit. They know the ammunition you have,whereas they haven’t won anything.

Ever!

CaltonTongues

Haven’t read the Article, just comments, so, going by comments only….

Anyone associated with the entity at Ibrox is a Hun, no family dispensations allowed!!!

P.S. I don’t have any Hun Family members or friends and….

KC&SunshineBandCSC 😁

Rebus67

Not to deflect from the theme of the lead article but we were presented last night with an example of what a sound coach and team spirit can achieve against the odds. Serbia had superior players but from the off, Scotland wanted it more. The formation 352 suited the players available to Scotland and it worked. The battering ram CF and the more subtle second striker worked a treat. We even got away with playing a non CB in that position.

Overall, the team could both defend and attack as required.

So Steve Clark can smile after all! The emotion of the players and the manager were a treat to see.

I doubt Clark will be in position for more than one more year after his achievement with this group of players, who clearly respect him.

Congrats to Clark and his squad.

Rebus

Rebus67

“Hun” is not a term that I use. I see no need for it as there are perfectly good words already in the dictionary that describe the required characteristics. Some of these are bigoted, prejudiced, lacking in education, brutal, and so on.

Using a single term like “Hun” makes it too easy to equate all Sevco supporters with these characteristics, which is just not the case. Some fans of all teams will exhibit “Hun” like tendencies and others will be true supporters who are interested only in the sport and not the hate.

Using a term like “Hun” is a device to inspire negative feelings towards supporters of another team without regard to differences amongst individuals. It is a negative example of Group Think rather than rational thought. I am sure you are familiar with equivalent terms that have been used to lump all Celtic supporters together in a derogatory manner. Do you condone them?

Rebus

The Real McCoy

Good Article TGM👍🏻
Definitely a resurgence of blue/orange jerseys.
I still smirk 😏. I’ll go to the bad fire 🔥.
Don’t Be Afraid Of The Dark
Saw this band supporting Tina Turner 1987
The Robert Cray Band

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra2Qndv_xeE

CT . You finished your lunch 🍴 🤔
Get outa that kitchen and …..😂

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REBUS 117

Not so sure that Stevie Clarke will leave within a year,mate. I reckon the job suits him perfectly. His wife,kids and grandkids are long settled in England,and he can spend as much time as he likes down there. All he has to do is pop up here now and again to take in the odd game,speak to his bosses at the SFA,etc.

I doubt that he needs the money as he was well paid as manager and assistant manager in various roles since he stopped playing,and well paid before that too. Ideal job for him,and without the daily strain of managing the type of clubs that he managed previously,ones where staying up was a bonus.

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REBUS67 133

I’m not so sure that we use the term as a generic for Rangers fans. Certainly,that used to be the case but as times and attitudes change so too do our thought processes.

We have long known the difference between a hun and a Rangers fan,I think. As an example,when I am home in Kilwinning,I know which I am speaking to at any time. It doesn’t take a genius to work it out!

Equally,only a hun calls every Celtic fan a taig or Fenian bastert,etc. Rangers fans generally don’t. Changed days,thankfully.

The Real McCoy

Posted earlier this morning.
Subtitles tonight at Wembley for the National Anthem of The Republic of Ireland 🇮🇪
Please be upstanding for…..
The Shoulders Song 😱

https://mobile.twitter.com/mePadraigReidy/status/1326978229744365568

The Real McCoy

Charlotte Fakes dossier/ hard-drive been fought over in court re the ongoing “ prosecutions “ of the administrators.
In other news that mass murderer who contracted C19 has died.
I had occasion to nod in passing to Peter from Yorkshire as he parked his lorry nearby and “dated” a local lass in a nearby pub in Lanarkshire. 😱
Hidden In Plain Sight.

The Gombeen Man

Thanks to Sentinel Celts for having the foresight for taking this issue on. It says a great deal for the maturity of the blog.

Inclusivity and integrity are key components to Celtic.

Thetic,

Thanks for the reply. I agree the fear that what might be to come and the memories of the past are powerful at the moment.
When fear it is manipulated it leads to all kinds of negative results. The whole EBT thing, greed, dominance, 5WA and all the incoherence surrounding it was born out of fear.
Practically every ‘evil’ has it’s roots in fear.

Noel,

Thanks Noel, for your valuable contribution.
The label, (Hun) is used universally for all supporters of the Ibrox club. Have a look at other blogs.
Labels like this that are as destructive as other stereotypes.
It comes from a similar place to other racial, gender, homophobic bias. It binds the user to generalised black and white/dualistic thinking.

Friesdorfer,

I’ve a pal who is a Sevco supporter in Ireland. He says he has only came across bias once when he asked for the Rangers game to be put on in the pub.
He claims he got a bad pint as a result.
The pub in question is notorious for its dodgy pints.
They put the game on for him.
When I got to know him it turned out his father supported Sevco and his mam, Celtic.
It seems that’s an increasing phenomenon.

BMCUWPS,

Thanks again for having the courage to open up the debate. Openness and fairness is the DNA of Brother Walfrid’s legacy. Celtic will only stagnate if we don’t debate these things.
I don’t see how we can criticise the Away Support’s singing if we don’t look at our own thinking and challenge the Old Firm them and us stereotypes?

Nothing will ever be perfect and as I said I can’t cast any stones.

Graeme Souness,

The withdrawal of the players?
Was it…
Fear of Celtic doing the Double? Or fear of Ireland qualifying? Or both.
The bold Graeme works for Irish tele now, has done for years.

ATOB,

Thanks again.

Rule Britannia?

“Britons never will be slaves.” Is that fear?

Is the freedom from the fear of slavery being offered for support of Britain?

I’m in Ireland, near Dublin but have a son in Glasgow.
You’re right about education and healing. That will take the input of government and institutions etc.

Bada Bing,

No equivocation there. Thanks for your contribution and honesty.

Oglach,

There’s much to detest in the way things have and are allowed to happen. I can’t say I blame you for the way you feel. Thanks for your honesty. It’s important that everyone is heard and respected.
You always call it as you see it. Fair play.

Billybhoy,

I’m sorry to read about McBurnie and how his conditioning prevented him from celebrating with the team. If that’s the way he feels that’s his prerogative, I guess.
I’ve just got to accept that and hopefully with the benefit of experience his view might change?
Let’s hope a bit of integration at the Euros with the team might help?
Ireland had a few English born lads playing for them last night and England had a couple of lads who were qualified for Ireland.
Grealish being one.

Ayrshire Bhoy,

I’d noticed the lack of Sevco tops over the last few years. A fear of ridicule? The way Sevco have been performing would have anyone drawing the curtains.
There’s a lot of suppressed emotion being released let’s hope we can get our act together after the break.
I think Sevco are the only club in the world where the value of the players has gone up during the pandemic.

Carlton Tongues,

Can’t say I blame you for not reading the article. Thanks for the honesty.

Rebus,

Thanks for the contribution. Don’t want to add much but there are numerous examples of the rationalisation of unconscionable behaviour. The Great Hunger (An Górta Mor), Germany, South Africa. Maybe even the developing walk between the US and Mexico?

Thanks again.

Till Later.

Oglach

Norwegian player Omar Elabdellaou tests positive for Covid. Now we have to wait and see if Moi is deemed to have been in close contact with him and having then to self isolate. I assume big Ajer wouldn’t be fit to face Hibs anyway, not even sure if he is with the Norwegian squad.
Meanwhile The Football Association of Ireland can confirm Ireland midfielder Alan Browne has tested positive for Covid-19 after playing against England! – Big Shane at risk from missing the hibs game also – A huge sigh of relief heard across Timland? And there’s me thinking that it would be rabies one would catch from being in close contact with the Saxons🙄😮😷 It’s a Joke —😁

Mahe

Morning all, happy Friday.
God Bless all those with health issues and less fortunate than ourselves.

TGM,
Quality writing as usual. Great food for thought contained within that piece. Sometimes I struggle to find the correct term for fans of our rivals. I don’t tend to use the word Hun, or at least not often. But I totally see why some use that term for their extreme fans.

Of course as we all know, when we mingle it tends to be just fine. We are just people after all with the same hopes and dreams, that our children will be happy etc.

I once heard the analogy that if you put a doorman on a pub, there will be trouble. Whereas a pub with no doorman doesn’t tend to have trouble.
Perhaps you’ve heard this or similar.
Well on that vein, Oglach might not agree, but I reckon you pull that Belfast peaceline down and people would adjust and mingle fine just like after the Berlin wall came down.
We are the same at heart it would soon be noticed.

Babysitting today, so must be brief, but thanks again.

Hail Hail

Mahe

.” I assume big Ajer wouldn’t be fit to face Hibs anyway”
I’ve a bone to pick with this one. He went down holding back of leg, was saying it’s alright, got subbed.
There was two games then a break coming up.
Both myself and Bobby agreed on here that rest was what he needed to relax the hamstring.

Then the game before the break he is back? Now injured?
What a mess! Returned too early? Why not rest until the Hibs game?
Effing joke and the system has went wrong somewhere. I hope there’s lessons learnt.

Hail Hail

Noel Skytrot

Does anyone remember the court case and the campaign by the currant buns to try and have the use of the word criminalised? Although it might be unpleasant for some its not illegal or sectarian to use the word. I prefer to use William rather than hun when referring to a certain element of their support. The worst case of hunnery i’ve witnessed from an individual has came from Judas, he tops them all.

bada bing1

Good chance of Tier 4 in central belt from next week

The Real McCoy

Bada
Tear 4 😢 😢😢😢 😷

Oglach

Mahe

Re the so called peace line. There was little mingling of communities, apart from the town centre, prior to the Brits erecting them so i don’t see how or why it would be any different now. Perhaps they are still there because the residents either side of the partition want it to remain 🤔 Remember the days before the oul ‘peace line’ was erected! Those good oul days when our demarcation lines were coloured side kerbs and gable end murals – usually with a sort of no mans land in between – the happy days of childhood lobbing ‘halfers’ and bottles at each other and being chased by the peelers – well as far as they dared follow us for fear of being ambushed, ah happy memories

The Gombeen Man

Mahe,

My main experience of the Peace Line in Belfast was the marathon last year. Just kids and parents cheering and handing out drinks and jelly babies and wine gums etc on both sides.
Not always the case I’m sure but it was the highlight of the event for me.

Noel,

Yes I remember something vagurely about that. That would have been a good opportunity for a dialogue and beginning to address the issues. I’ll look it up later.

It’s not just the tit for tat, one-upmanship that goes on…

The underlying fear breeds a desire to dominate which legitimised all the shenanigans. EBT’s, Side Letters, 5WA, lack of transparency etc.

Celtic Plc fear losing £10m etc, so we have deals done.
Blazers are conditioned into a way of thinking and fear Timmy taking over.
Referees the same.

Fear creates an incoherence which leads to hatred/ bigotry etc.

The results are a cycle of violence and the rich get richer.

big packy

AFTERNOON \EVENING allLand JIM, my best friend growing up in glenboig, billy hendry was a rangers supporter, used to taunt me with how great willie henderson was and jim baxter, truth be told he never seen them, only on television, he had never been to ibrox in his life, but he supported rangers because he went to the local protestant school, just like us we supported celtic because we went to the catholic school,, billy was a rangers supporter but never a hun, BTW ,in my opinion there are no green huns, celtic supporters dont go around smashing up protestant churches and spitting at protestant clergy,,that is another true story,👍

Oglach

Mahe / TGM

Ghuys, I really envy your faith in humanity and your conviction that in the end the good guys usually prevail and that all will be well. But sadly being one of life’s great misanthropes and a student of history i find that mankind, with very few exceptions, as a species absolutely and totally sucks. That is why if i were resident in somewhere like the US i would be a ‘prepper’ extraordinaire – look in the dictionary for a description of prepper and there would be a picture of me – armed to the teeth standing outside my nuke proof bunker 😉

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BIGPACKY

Your mate could spot a player,even if it was only on TV. And I can assure you,there ARE Green huns.

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OGLACH

“I find that mankind, with very few exceptions, as a species are let down by those who absolutely and totally suck”

Fixed that for you. Admittedly the ones that you refer to are usually the ones in position to prove your point. THAT is what sucks.

Oglach

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Thanks Bobby but it didn’t need fixed – i stand by my assertion

big packy

BOBBY, there might be green huns, but they would not spit on protestant clergy.IMHO

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OGLACH

I presented it badly,but I’ll stick with the last line of it.

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BIGPACKY

I’d like to think not,but I wouldn’t bet anything important on it.

Thetic

TGM great response to everyone I don’t expect responses to my posts Ijust like to chuck in my 2 cents worth
Your article was thought provoking and I look forward to a lot more

Oglach

BP / Bobby

Come on admit it you could both spare a wee bit of saliva for Rev William McCrea, AKA Baron McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown 🙄

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OGLACH

Not for him nor Kilcooley,not even if they were on fire.

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THETIC

Posting at a sensible hour,UK time,should make a difference!

Three or four months ago,your normal posting time would be just as I was putting my feet up after a shift-we could’ve put the world to rights. Now look at it,gone to hell in a handcart and it must be our fault…

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OGLACH

BTW,McCrea was as much a minister as Paisley. Bought his title over the counter in the States.

“McCrea received an Honorary Doctorate of Divinity from Mariette Bible College, Ohio, United States.[4] (This institution is not certified by the Department of Higher Education or the State of Ohio.)”

Auldheid

The Gombeen Man

Where to start?

In the movie Hotel Rwanda about the civil war there between the Hutu and Tutsi tribes where mass genocide occured I recall one side (Hutu) I think on the radio describing the other side as cockroaches to dehumanise then and so make them easier to kill by otherwise normal folk driven by fear.

So it is dangerous to let labels hide the reality of what is below. Events there were televised when Baroness Linda Chalker from Dept of International Development visited the country. I recall her sitting atop rear of a jeep with handkerchief to her face to kill the stench of decaying corpses. What is a bloody Tory doing there might have been a label applied.

However not long after she visited the DFID office in EK and gave an account of her visit that reflected a degree of compassion and understanding of the human condition that was very moving to the audience, the majority of whom would be very unlikely to vote Tory.

Come to think of it Lord Carrington around time of Falkland War visited and left a good impression as did Chris Patten, but Claire Short topped them all. (I name droppingly digress but you get my point about labels.)

Thus like Rebus I rarely use the term, using blue meanies or nasties instead. Occasionally when out with my good lady for a drink on holiday we might find ourselves in the company of strangers and get chatting.

Later my GL who has no scooby of football sectarianism might ask did I like them and Ill say yes or no depending on the degree of hun thinking displayed usually from ignorance. If I say no I’ll say “hun” by way of explaining and some might not even know who Rangers are never mind support them.

The older I get the sadder I feel for the most extreme of hunnish behaviour, so far from God and consumed with the fear that drives them away,

Treating Genesis as a metaphor I was surprised when really reading it that fear began after taking on judgement of right and wrong. First nakedness was judged wrong whereas before the couple were oblivious to it and then they judged God would be angry and hid out of fear of him.

I say treat as metaphor but Genesis indicates a possible moment in time in mankind’s history when fear began and why it began.

Got me thinking anyway (as you read in the short story for my granddaughter TGM)

The Gombeen Man

Oglach,

Yep mankind is a work in progress and on a bigger scale our incoherence will bring the ecology of the planet to it’s knees if we don’t get our act together.

On a smaller scale…When you look at all the cheating. The no Nomad, or accounts, or the penalties, or no compliance, Hong Kong money or no liquidation, the media etc, etc, etc.

And become aware of the function of fear in the Old Firm. The game’s up. It’s just a fraud, dictated by fear, where nobody can afford to tell the truth.

One side cheating out of fear of domination by the other and the other side saying nothing out of fear of bursting the Old Firm bubble.

There’s plenty of decent folk about. Those better qualities usually surface when people feel safe and less threatened.

Trouble is, there’s agendas out there that dominate and control by propagating fear.

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